What is GoJet?

[ren]

First off, I'm not your boy you F'n REDNECK!

Secondly, you have obviously made some poor career moves as to be this desperate, and didn't learn very much the first time you were flying for Hulas.

Be my guest, become another over-worked, under-paid, "monkey-suite" wearing pilot to "ride Uncle Hulas's new venture right to the next vote mmmkay ?" I won't stop you.

PtP

He'll get what he'll get PTP. Remember the morons that were willing to fly the emb without a pay scale? Bet he was one of them. He will reap the consequences, won't he? This guy sounds like he operates on the "dog eat dog" mentality. Nevermind his fellow pilots in the industry. I hope there are more guys out there that operate on ethics.

 

[IHaveAPension]

Oh, I get it now. So working for some contract cargo carrier is so much better with your 15 days on. I've seen your payscales. Not really that much better than the commuter's unless you fly for the real cargo carriers which is not the case with you. Bet if you lose your contract, you be more that happy to chase an airplane that actually has paint on it.

Now who is looking desperate. I take it you didn't go there by choice, did you?

Actually I did come here by choice. And we are no contract carrier. We are the most highly sought after airline in the world to get on with, you probably have an application in with us already. We are known by our color and it's not brown!

 

[acaTerry]

I don't know about you guys, but I feel so much love in here....

 

[millhouse21]

Aside from the fact that I find it disturbing, I don't mind people being so shortsighted as to go to GoJet. They WILL get what they deserve. No, it won't (probably) be delivered by the union, either. Uncle Hulas will be bending these people over soon enough and I will be laughing when they get on here to (rhymes with itch) about it. Let me start now... HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! Just wait and see...

 

[rptrain]

a bunch of self-righteous bull$hit....

you are an embarassment to the military, your airline, and the human race.

 

[IHaveAPension]

you are an embarassment to the military, your airline, and the human race.

Whatever. I do like your avatar though, except one thing on the sign the guy is carrying... I make about $17000 a MONTH!!!!

 

[328dude]

Whatever. I do like your avatar though, except one thing on the sign the guy is carrying... I make about $17000 a MONTH!!!!

OK, now I think your full of Shat. People that have the amount of hours and experience as you say you do, usually don't make childness statement's like that.

It's ok, I'm sure you have some seperation issues and just want to fit in with the rest of us. However, I dought you are who you say you are after reading your post's. Beside's, guys with that amount of experience have a hard time using a computer.

I think I just heard your mom call.

 

[AviatorTx]

My pilot group is NOT facing concessions. We will insead be facing a big, fat pay RAISE along with increased benefits. Enjoy your life at the commuters.

This means you either work for SWA, JET WHO, or Airtrian. OK, commuters that fly big equipment. Big difference. Unless you are a freight dog in which case you should not be bothered by small jet feeders. If you work for a legacy, you have taken a hit.

Yes, I'm enjoying my time at XJT. I am going to gross close to 100K this year. I am having to work my tail off, but I am happy making that kind of coin at 6th year pay.

Like I said, our major counterpart had their chance to embrace us. Instead, they shunned us. I'll be really happy staying here and taking more of their flying. Hopefully we will get some of their 737's too.

 

[b82rez]

Whatever. I do like your avatar though, except one thing on the sign the guy is carrying... I make about $17000 a MONTH!!!!

Are all you guys that obtuse that you actually believe this guy's for real? At least it's entertaining, all of you arguing with him like idiots!

 

[smokey999]

I don't have to beg for a jumpseat on a commuter, I live in my domicile and my airline provides tickets to position/deposition trips if needed. I also try my best to avoid riding on commuters but with the proliferation and taking of mainline routes it's gettting harder and harder to avoid riding on one. Thankfully a majority of my trips either originate in domicile or when needed to commercial, they start in markets not served by commuters.

Please name me a market not served by commuters. I too think you are some high school nerd who is just trolln'. Nobody who works at Brown or Purple (or any other **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** color for that matter) would be spouting off the way you are. Good luck on your SAT's.
To all you Mesa guys out there....How different is this whole GoJets thing from the Freedom ordeal? From what I understand, a federal judge denied JO's attempt to operate freedom on a seperate list, but this was after you signed the contract you are now working under. Is this correct?

 

[millhouse21]

I'm still waiting for some GoJet types to start complaining. How long do you think it will take? Should we start a poll????

 

[TIGV]

You fellas hired on at TSA under the American Connection codeshare contract right? You should have seen the requirement for larger aircraft down the road and the problem that scope represented in obtaining such aircraft, but you hired on anyway right ? So why are you guys complaining now?? If you want the long jet make the transition, if you don't then tuff it out at TSA, didn't seem to bother a bunch of our own from hopping to the Jet on no payscale when they arrived and these were guys from our own company !!

This is not a new thing at TSA, Hulas used to own United Feeder Service out of Chicago, separate seniority , separate company, anyone wanting to transition over to UFS had to go through the hiring process. UFS wasn't designed as a contract negotiating tool and nor is GoJet.
Of course the payscales are gonna be lower, it's a new airline, we're a service industry and until GoJet get some people on board and start making some coin they're not gonna offer a shedload of money and the pilot-group will not be in a strong position to negotiate a better contract until they do make some money.
So yeah, I for one am gonna flip em a resume until ALPA tells me otherwise, which in this case doesn't apply yet.
As a footnote, when the Jet-scream went away at TSA I was offered a right to left seat transition to go to the Jet on the shady payscale, I quit instead, like I said, I'm done paying dues for others and as long as there is no conflict like Mesa and Freedom,I'm gonna try to get on with GoJet, that is unless you all got some other PRODUCTIVE suggestions that don't involve eating frikkin Ramen noodles for another 10 years.

 

[pianoman]

Dude- what part of this aren't you getting? The company you are going to work for is in existance solely to screw a different bunch of employees. That should make most people with a soul stop and think, but if it doesn't, at least look at it from a selfish point of view?

Are you really gullible enough to believe they won't turn around and screw you over next? Wow this is like watching a bad horror movie where the white people won't leave the crazy house.

 

[theo]

Boy, ya go away a few days and come back and see all of the activity on this thread. A few people have said that the Teamsters were decertified at GoJet. Is this true? Is it because they can't receive a certification for an airline until they get the actual 121 certificate. Is that an issue at GoJet. I recall Republic/Chautauqua have been trying for a certificate for what, over a year now and still no success. Will GoJet fall to the same problems. If Chautauqua is having such a hard time will GoJet? Maybe we are all just a little ahead of ourselves in deciding if this is a legitimate opportunity or not. Maybe they won't achieve a certificate in time to match their plans. If so I guess they would have to slow down their hiring, or stop it. This should give ALPA a chance to work with Trans States Holdings to find a solution that will benefit both the TSA pilots and Trans State Holdings. Who really knows yet how this will all work out. I will be curious to see if they fare any better than Chautauqua/Republic did in getting a new certificate from the FAA.

 

[airjackson]

I love the guys who feel they need ALPA or any other union entity to tell them what to do or not to do. There is a reason that ALPA has not made a PUBLIC, OFFICIAL "do not apply" statement. It's called negotiation and strategy. But really, do you need someone to make every decision for you?? Seem to have misplaced those moral and professional convictions that most of us retain?? Grow a sack and apply or don't based on what YOU think is the right thing to do. The thought of sharing the cockpit with such an indecisive, spineless lump is distressing.

 

[TIGV]

Dude- what part of this aren't you getting? The company you are going to work for is in existance solely to screw a different bunch of employees. That should make most people with a soul stop and think, but if it doesn't, at least look at it from a selfish point of view?

Are you really gullible enough to believe they won't turn around and screw you over next? Wow this is like watching a bad horror movie where the white people won't leave the crazy house.

Dude, at least learn to spell, once you get that managed do a little history, and how are you getting screwed exactly ??? They gonna pay you less ??? Only way I see you getting screwed is you don't get to fly the long jet at TSA the American connection, you'll have to go to GoJet to do that and guess what? When you hired on there was no way you were ever gonna fly the long jet at TSA so what gives?
Please, exactly how are you getting screwed ?
Did you give concessions which are now being spent on GoJet? (aka. Mesaba BigSky )
Did they promise you a the long Jet when you got hired ?
Is the long Jet in your contract ?
I mean really, I would like to know, I need it spelled out.

 

[pianoman]

Fine. You got me. I spelled "existence" wrong. That said, I apologize if I was overly critical in my post. I have to confess I'm still a little bent over the Freedom thing, because it forced Mesa to give up rates for scope, which lowered the average rates for equipment in our range.

I don't work for TSA. My interest is that you all don't start flying 70 or 90 seaters for some sub- 50 seat rate. Why is this my problem? Because I and every other pilot out there will find it that much harder to negotiate a pay raise when the time comes. We'll have to remain "competitive".

I have read quite a bit of history and lived a little so far. With your 7000 hrs, have you not seen a "whipsaw" tactic used before? I fear this may turn out to be that.

In all seriousness, good luck. I know you have a lot of tough choices when you're out on the street looking for a decent job, and that's a position I don't wish on anyone.

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

Our VARS just came out and things are about to get real ugly around here!

Have fun at GoJets.

PtP

 

[BlackPilot628]

Corpex is loosing Approx. 8 Capts to Gojets as street Capts.

Corpex guys desereve any type of change for the better.
I know, I was there!

 

[MINIME]

TIGV, I'm sorry that you're in the position that you're in. Are you a mainline furloughee by any chance? I'm not here to discredit your thoughts in any way. Somehow, I believe that you are truthfully looking for a way out of a situation. A situation that despite of it all, is not unique to yourself. Many on this board have, are or will go through the same thing at some point in their careers. Having said that, you are no rookie to this industry. You are well aware I assume, how unions and companies work. You do understand that this Go Jet thing just adds more fuel to the race to the bottom that seems to have no bottom. If Go Jet goes every pilot loses. Why? Because when anybody else tries to negotiate a payscale this situation will be thrown in the equation. If 70, 90 seaters are flown for subpar payscales, more and more mainline flying will be thrown their way. This creates less slots at majors that I'm sure most of us would like to one day have. In closing with my ranting, there are better more reputable places where you can apply RIGHT NOW other than Go Jet. I believe Express Jet, Comair and Skywest are hiring.