What does it take to get the Feds attention?

[leardawg]

I did hear a story a few years back about a FSDO inspector overhearing a conversation between a CFI and his student at a diner. Basically, the CFI was bragging about his low-flying exploits, and giving the student tips while telling him how much of a blast he was going to have when he got his license. The inspector tracked the guy down, and he was called in for a re-check. I can't remember the outcome, but acquaintances told me the guy was a total tool as a student, as well as after he managed to get his CFI ticket.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

I did hear a story a few years back about a FSDO inspector overhearing a conversation between a CFI and his student at a diner. Basically, the CFI was bragging about his low-flying exploits, and giving the student tips while telling him how much of a blast he was going to have when he got his license. The inspector tracked the guy down, and he was called in for a re-check. I can't remember the outcome, but acquaintances told me the guy was a total tool as a student, as well as after he managed to get his CFI ticket.

Both of them are probably inspectors now.

Around here all of the small 135 operators have it in for one another. Lots of people have worked for more than one of the local operators. Seems they all have the "hotline" number on speed dial. One operator just recently was forced into surrendering their 135 certificate. Dirty rats!!!

 

[Ralgha]

You can fly in IMC conditions outside of controlled airspace with no IFR flight plan, so long as the pilot is IFR rated and the aircraft meets IFR requirements. In which case, there is no talking to controllers, unless you just want to tell them "hi!"

True, but you're definatly not VFR in that case.

 

[FN FAL]

I did hear a story a few years back about a FSDO inspector overhearing a conversation between a CFI and his student at a diner. Basically, the CFI was bragging about his low-flying exploits, and giving the student tips while telling him how much of a blast he was going to have when he got his license. The inspector tracked the guy down, and he was called in for a re-check. I can't remember the outcome, but acquaintances told me the guy was a total tool as a student, as well as after he managed to get his CFI ticket.

If what you are saying is true, that scenario is not a case of "hearsay". The FSDO inspector heard the person saying it. Completely different circumstances.

If FSDO advised me that someone was telling them stories out of school about me and they were unfounded, I'd be speaking with an attorney immediately and pursuing all lawful options available to me.

 

[JAFI]

FAA Safety Hotline:

Safety Hotline
Call our 24-Hour Safety Hotline at (800) 255-1111 to report:

• Maintenance improprieties
• Low-flying aircraft
• Aircraft incidents
• Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) violations

http://www.faa.gov/safety/

You can leave your name or not, You can ask to be contacted or not, it is up to you. The person at the other end is a Regional Manager for the Hotline program in that region. Each phone call gets a tracking number and the assigned FSDO must investigate and provide a written report to the Regional Manager what they found.

 

[troy]

unless you seen this tool actually bust some reg, I don't think that you should do anything. He might be not telling the truth, "hanger flying" if you will. Undoubtedlly he is telling the truth, but you can't tell. You might give FSDO a heads up what you heard, but they probably won't do much of anything.

The FAA safety hotline might be the best course of action.

 

[FN FAL]

FAA Safety Hotline:

Safety Hotline
Call our 24-Hour Safety Hotline at (800) 255-1111 to report:

• Maintenance improprieties
• Low-flying aircraft
• Aircraft incidents
• Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) violations

http://www.faa.gov/safety/

You can leave your name or not, You can ask to be contacted or not, it is up to you. The person at the other end is a Regional Manager for the Hotline program in that region. Each phone call gets a tracking number and the assigned FSDO must investigate and provide a written report to the Regional Manager what they found.

It doesn't say what you said on the website, cite a reference please.

 

[FN FAL]

unless you seen this tool actually bust some reg, I don't think that you should do anything. He might be not telling the truth, "hanger flying" if you will. Undoubtedlly he is telling the truth, but you can't tell. You might give FSDO a heads up what you heard, but they probably won't do much of anything.

The FAA safety hotline might be the best course of action.

How can you investigate hearsay? You can't.

"Hello, pilot Johnson?"

"Yes, can I help you?"

"Yea, it's come to our attention that some dude heard you talking to some other dude and we are required to investigate dudes talking and file a dudes talking incident report...were you talking to a dude on such and such a date at such and such a place and time?"

"No."

"Are you sure?"

"Yes."

"Ok, I'll check 'possibly/maybe' on the form and we'll have one of our investigators pull the security camera tapes after getting a subpoena to do so...we'll contact you at a latter date regarding the final disposition of the dudes talking incident report...thank you for your time."

"You're welcome."

 

[NW_Pilot]

How can you investigate hearsay? You can't.

"Hello, pilot Johnson?"

"Yes, can I help you?"

"Yea, it's come to our attention that some dude heard you talking to some other dude and we are required to investigate dudes talking and file a dudes talking incident report...were you talking to a dude on such and such a date at such and such a place and time?"

"No."

"Are you sure?"

"Yes."

"Ok, I'll check 'possibly/maybe' on the form and we'll have one of our investigators pull the security camera tapes after getting a subpoena to do so...we'll contact you at a latter date regarding the final disposition of the dudes talking incident report...thank you for your time."

"Your welcome."

LMFAO ROTF

 

[NW_Pilot]

FAA Safety Hotline:

Safety Hotline
Call our 24-Hour Safety Hotline at (800) 255-1111 to report:

• Maintenance improprieties
• Low-flying aircraft
• Aircraft incidents
• Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) violations

http://www.faa.gov/safety/

You can leave your name or not, You can ask to be contacted or not, it is up to you. The person at the other end is a Regional Manager for the Hotline program in that region. Each phone call gets a tracking number and the assigned FSDO must investigate and provide a written report to the Regional Manager what they found.

You know by calling an 800 number unless you do it on a pay phone they have your info even if your number in unlisted!