What does Apr'08 hire date buy u at SWA

[slaquer5]

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[lanilila]

How come there has never been a LAX base with all the flying out of there? Is this a legitimate rumor?

 

[Capn Butthead]

I've heard from several union folks that it is true. I even asked about the expensive labor laws of CA...they said it will be necessary for the hawaii flying. It would be interesting to see how senior LAX would be!

 

[Hardcorr]

Just jumpsat on US Airways. Pilots told me they were drawing down even more in Las Vegas. Maybe more growth for us there?

 

[On Your Six]

El Paso layovers, every weekend and holiday, for decades.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[slaquer5]

Just jumpsat on US Airways. Pilots told me they were drawing down even more in Las Vegas. Maybe more growth for us there?

Please do not put anything positive about SWA on Fi.

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[StopNTSing]

I was hired a year ago, and our outlook due to retirements beats your certain stagnation easily. Anyone going to SWA now gets to sit behind all the young Airtran guys, and only 150 or so retirements per year for the next decade. Would newhires now get Airtran or SWA rates btw? Anyone who decides that will have to eat that turd sandwich for years, below the trannies.


Godspeed!


OYS

You obviously assume a future mainline Delta maintaining 12,000ish pilots to fuel your progression. A junior SWA pilot might assume future growth due to expansion into many as yet untapped markets. Only time will tell...

 

[Capn Butthead]

I'll take El Paso layovers on the weekends instead of being on the street working at Kmart watching rjs and skyteam planes flying over taking my job....plus the Mexican food in el paso rocks.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Yup...I'll take El PAso too.....Plus the fact that the AM Hotel give us a free breakfast. And it's not a jelly roll and a coffee type of breakfast, its right off the menu...free !!!

 

[Capn Butthead]

Well being a die hard pm'er I know nothing about the free breakfast but the pm hotel has great a great juice made with a fruit called hops and barley!

 

[On Your Six]

You obviously assume a future mainline Delta maintaining 12,000ish pilots to fuel your progression. A junior SWA pilot might assume future growth due to expansion into many as yet untapped markets. Only time will tell...

It's called retirements. A report pasted on FI said Delta will retire 7600 pilots to age 65 in the next 15 years. SWA will be retiring about 150-175 a year for the next decade. Look at how young the Airtran group is, that won't help. And it looks like SWA is thinking about dumping the 717s when the leases expire, and that may get rid of a lot of your current smaller markets. As far as untapped markets, you have to realize everyone else has already beaten you to the punch, Hawaii is saturated already, Alaska Airlines owns the AK routes, etc. Going to Europe as a LCC will ignite a war not just between mainline legacy carriers and your airline, but also European LCCs like Ryainair and Easyjet that are just as strong as you, but already have the slots and infrastructure over there. Untapped markets are few and far between, and won't be easy to start without tons of competition.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[StopNTSing]

It's called retirements. A report pasted on FI said Delta will retire 7600 pilots to age 65 in the next 15 years. SWA will be retiring about 150-175 a year for the next decade. Look at how young the Airtran group is, that won't help. And it looks like SWA is thinking about dumping the 717s when the leases expire, and that may get rid of a lot of your current smaller markets. As far as untapped markets, you have to realize everyone else has already beaten you to the punch, Hawaii is saturated already, Alaska Airlines owns the AK routes, etc. Going to Europe as a LCC will ignite a war not just between mainline legacy carriers and your airline, but also European LCCs like Ryainair and Easyjet that are just as strong as you, but already have the slots and infrastructure over there. Untapped markets are few and far between, and won't be easy to start without tons of competition.


Godspeed!


OYS

Since you apparently missed it on the first pass...

You obviously assume a future mainline Delta maintaining 12,000ish pilots to fuel your progression.