What do you instructors log in remarks?

[Spinn555]

Hehe-

In order to limit my liability, especially on BFR's that we not up to speed, (and believe me, there were a lot where I worked),


"Students performance below standards, due to poor <fill in the blank>


The "fill in the blank" portion could be any number of things...

...instruction from a previous instructor
...retention of basic skills and knowledge
and my favorite....
"...poor spin recovery technique during demonstration of steep turns."

No spoofing...I actually have that exact line in my book.

 

[Tired Soul]

Students logbook and mine reflect the same, just my problem is I'm usually at least 2 weeks behind filling mine in..

I try to keep things organized but I also beleive in redundancy in record keeping.
Student's logbook/ my logbook/ 141 records.
I agree with a previous post that too much recordkeeping starnge as it may sound will get you in trouble also, a lawyer will always find something.
Students logbook should contain everything in 61.87 at least once if not several times.

 

[350DRIVER]

Be detail oriented in the student's logbook. Write in all that was covered as well as if the flight was sat OR unsat. This can come into play if ever one of your student's is involved in an incident or accident.

The only thing I would write in mine (CFI's log) was student's full name and type of instruction given to them. ex>> private pilot flight instruction given to Mr. Jack Mihoff which included .5 of ground.

No need to write a novel it is pointless, never had mine questioned at any part 135 or 121 interview. The above example is more than good enough and will satisfy what the airline wants/expects to see.

"Your" flight instruction history (time spent as a CFI),what you covered with your students, and what you wrote in your remarks sections is one of the last things that an airline will be looking for when they are going through your logbooks, just doesn't happen my friend.

"Overkill" is not always good and it can be just as bad as writing nothing in the remarks section. You are not writing up a cardiology report for a patient that is about to have open heart surgery.

Less is better sometimes, this is a perfect example.


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[airksk]

Personally, I never put anything in mine except the students name and the type of instruction taking place, i.e. commercial maneuvers, pre-solo training, etc... In their log I wrote everything we did. Of course, it was a 141 school, and I had the training records and notes in the school's log as well in the event anyone questioned what had taken place. No one has ever asked for more detail in my log in an interview(not that I've had many), so I don't think a novel is needed.

 

[BoDEAN]

I have been very lazy with keeping records of the students at the flight school. We are 141, but the vast majority of my students are 61. I am trying to fill out the JEPP folders for them, even though they are part 61.
Is this a good idea? Or should I just keep a spreadsheet for each student and keep a copy on my pocketpc, showing what we have/haven't covered per lesson? Right now I just basically use the Jepp sylabus, and go through it for each lesson with the student, make it in his logbook, and when i feel it is complete, move on to the next lesson (But I am way behind on keeping a physical record of this).

 

[52Vincent]

I have been very lazy with keeping records of the students at the flight school. We are 141, but the vast majority of my students are 61. I am trying to fill out the JEPP folders for them, even though they are part 61.
Is this a good idea? Or should I just keep a spreadsheet for each student and keep a copy on my pocketpc, showing what we have/haven't covered per lesson? Right now I just basically use the Jepp sylabus, and go through it for each lesson with the student, make it in his logbook, and when i feel it is complete, move on to the next lesson (But I am way behind on keeping a physical record of this).

Yeah, I hate paperwork too, I can remember several times playing catch up. I would sit for an hour or two with a folder filling it out prior to a checkride(Part 141 at the time). Currently, I do the same; student name followed by the rating or cert. sought in my logbook. However in their book I write everything covered in the lesson.
I would agree with 350 here, "Less is Better."

 

[nosehair]

It is not possible to write each detail in the small box labeled "remarks and endordements"...here's what I do. For example, a pre-solo student: "FAR 61.87(d) 1-9, & 12. ground reference" For a commercial student: "FAR 61.127(b)(1)(i-v) Chandelles." The first several numbers reflect the preflight/runup,etc., then the following numbers state the area of operation, and then I write in the specific tasks that were practiced.

 

[BoDEAN]

What records do you keep though of your student for 141 or part 61?
Do you use a spreadsheet that you can check off what was done on each lesson? Or do you just go back and look what you wrote in in their logbook?

 

[jimtrustycfi]

Log

Need to keep a pretty accurate log yourself, because if someone lose's theirs, you should be able to reconstruct it from yours. There is no rule that you have to limit the space you use to log a lesson, one line or a page. Mine is far too complete and I use it when I am looking for something to add to an aviation article. I sometimes sit down with previous students and we go back in time with my log and have a lot of laughs.
I record all the bad stuff and certainly the good, and it is fascinating to read. That's what a logbbok is all about, a pilot's diary, a record of events. Take some time to do it right and do too much. In the future you'll be glad you did.