What do you get paid for "High-speeds, Naps..?"

[FCPhotography]

At Pinnacle we get 3:45 or block, whichever is better. At ACA, Independence we got half of our duty period which worked out to 5 - 6 hours of pay for usually two 1 hour legs (very nice).

We are in negotiations and I am curious to what other regionals get these days.

Thanks.

 

[AMANSWORLD]

At Pinnacle we get 3:45 or block, whichever is better. At ACA, Independence we got half of our duty period which worked out to 5 - 6 hours of pay for usually two 1 hour legs (very nice).

We are in negotiations and I am curious to what other regionals get these days.

Thanks.

Does it really matter at regional pay levels? lol

 

[BoilerUP]

Air Wisconsin 5hr credit or actual block.

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

1:2 duty;over 12 duty 1:1.

 

[jvrac]

We don't do those at PDT.

 

[othello]

Mesaba is 4.0 Hr Min day or better.
This almost comes into play at Mesaba however. We have consolidated CDO all or none you either have a whole line on CDO 11 days off or No CDO. Most CDO lines credit 55-65 hr of credit which is paid out as 75HR monthly Min guarantee.

Big Sky is 2 for 1 Duty time =14 hr duty min 7hr pay.

 

[Hank Hill]

The industry ain't what it used to be.

 

[GeneralAv]

Could someone please explain in real simple terms as if to a moron (me) how these pay ratio things (4:1 2:1), duty block, per diem, etc. work?

 

[SSDD]

O.K. I'll try...

Duty time...from the time you show up to work until some agreed upon time after your last flight.

Block...the actual flight time.

4:1 or 2:1...For every 4 (or 2)hours of duty time, you get paid one hour of flight time. Obviously 2:1 is a whole lot better than 4:1.

Per diem...An agreed upon hourly rate given to you while you're on duty to cover associated expenses, like food. At most airlines its about $1.50/hr, give or take a few cents.

These are a few of the reasons that when people talk about pay in the airline industry, hourly rates don't tell the whole story. They are oversimplified, but I hope it helps.

 

[bailout]

ASA is actual block.. like MCN naps for 1:45 total. Yes it sux..

 

[GeneralAv]

O.K. I'll try...

Duty time...from the time you show up to work until some agreed upon time after your last flight.

Block...the actual flight time.

4:1 or 2:1...For every 4 (or 2)hours of duty time, you get paid one hour of flight time. Obviously 2:1 is a whole lot better than 4:1.

Per diem...An agreed upon hourly rate given to you while you're on duty to cover associated expenses, like food. At most airlines its about $1.50/hr, give or take a few cents.

These are a few of the reasons that when people talk about pay in the airline industry, hourly rates don't tell the whole story. They are oversimplified, but I hope it helps.

Thanks SSDD! Another queston, is per diem paid on every trip for every hour on duty, or block, and while you're sleeping on a 4 day trip?

 

[Mesabi Miner]

Mesaba is 4.0 Hr Min day or better.
This almost comes into play at Mesaba however. We have consolidated CDO all or none you either have a whole line on CDO 11 days off or No CDO. Most CDO lines credit 55-65 hr of credit which is paid out as 75HR monthly Min guarantee.

Big Sky is 2 for 1 Duty time =14 hr duty min 7hr pay.

Not to be picky, but Mesaba is 4.0 hours or better per CDO. 4.0 hours min day or better would, in most cases, lead to 8.0 hours. Not the case.

MM

 

[kansas]

Great Lakes is block only.

 

[skydork]

For those of you who think that hourly rate means anything, this is the type of thing that actually drives your paycheck. So just because carrier A and carrier B have rates that are pretty close, don't be fooled into thinking that your paychecks are going to be the same.

 

[herb]

At Eagle we get a 72 hour guarantee for the month. The CDO's are usually blocked at between 20 to 40 hours for the month. The lines are always pure CDO's normally with 11 days off. The company has the option to mix the flying withing a monthly bid line but the CDO's must be contained in the beginning of the month or the end, they can not flip flop back and forth with regular trips.

 

[Smacktard]

For those of you who think that hourly rate means anything, this is the type of thing that actually drives your paycheck. So just because carrier A and carrier B have rates that are pretty close, don't be fooled into thinking that your paychecks are going to be the same.

Go to http://asacrew.com/store/payrate.php and enter what your monthly paychecks work out to be. Haven't had many nappers enter information.

If I can get to 100 entries on this, I'll make a search feature so that you can compare paychecks.

Results are here... http://asacrew.com/store/results.php

 

[SSDD]

Thanks SSDD! Another queston, is per diem paid on every trip for every hour on duty, or block, and while you're sleeping on a 4 day trip?

Again, it depends on what they've negotiated. Some companies only pay per diem if you go on an overnight, others for every minute you're on duty, even while you're asleep in the hotel.

Something else to keep in mind is that per diem on a day trip is taxable, while per diem on overnights is not.

Take care

 

[Cardinal]

Great Lakes is block only.

...and lines are consolidated, so the lucky winner gets paid min guarantee for the month.

 

[Melfly]

PSA gets nothing except block for the high speeds. I think even our FA's get more credit. We suck!

 

[Soverytired]

MESA:

No different than a regular day trip, which is to say segments are average block times for the past 6 months. (ex: Trips to LAS-MFR took an average of 1:58 over the past 6 months, so you get paid that, not the 2.06 that is the official block time reported to the FAA for planning purposes)

So if you're on duty 14 hrs (common) and only fly 3.5 hours in the middle of the night, you get 3.5 hours. This keeps the math nice and simple.

On the plus side, you have your choice between sleeping in the back of a smelly airplane with 3 complete strangers and a noisy APU, or you can hike off to the hotel to share 1 room with those same 3 complete strangers.

 

[Jetpipeovht]

PSA gets nothing except block for the high speeds. I think even our FA's get more credit. We suck!

Yes we do!