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DesertFalcon

DesertFalcon

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Hi, Everyone.....

As I look for employment, again, I am having a very tough time staying positive.

Employers seem to always want someone who is current in type. They say future expansion may be around the corner; if it happens we'll contact you.

One minute your hopes are "High," then no one calls, and "no hope" is the thought of the day.

I am getting very tired of this game. No Job, No money, unknown future.

How do you handle this type of stress?
Any tips?

:(
 
all I can say is that each time I was looking for work, it would be DEAD for a long time, then all the interviews/offers came at once..2,3, or 4 at a time..and next thing you know - YOU are the one turning down decent jobs. (for better ones)

other than that I would say the best way to forget it a bit is to enjoy the time with family, because you will be back to working all the time before you know it.
 
I agree with G200, I had zero interviews for three years, then all of a sudden they

started to come in. Hang in there, and they will come. By the way, Kalitta Air

(B747) is having a class in September. Do a search for their info on this site,

drop them a resume.


Best of luck
 
eh, nobody like me but I still got job offers...

being liked is over-rated.

:)
 
DesertFalcon

The very first thing I would do to stay positive would be forget your password to this forum. I'll only bring you down man...

Seriously,
I sent out 30-60 resumes a month for six month before I got my current job. You have to be consistent and persistent. Keep plug'n away, you'll get something.

Good luck,

JB2k
 
"A group of us are going to do something."

JetBlast2000 said:
DesertFalcon

The very first thing I would do to stay positive would be forget your password to this forum. I'll only bring you down man...

Seriously,
I sent out 30-60 resumes a month for six month before I got my current job. You have to be consistent and persistent. Keep plug'n away, you'll get something.

Good luck,

JB2k
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Only you know what you need to stay in tune with your situation. Tuning out might be a solution. I would rather stay plugged in. But, there are some post I steer around [avoid] because they are designed to be negative and argumentative.

I have no other source to aviation beside this forum. I could go to the local F.B.O., airport, private flight services, etc. but my involvement there would be more of an interuption rather than a service unless I am invited [job lead, interveiw, common interest]. All my aviation friends are off doing other things in other places.

The only unfortunate aspect of the forum is that many of the participants are unemployed with little encouragement to offer others in the same glider [as opposed to "boat"]. But, much like in business, people come and go with a variety of experiences that help others keep in touch with what is happening out there. If you have a specific problem there are people from many disciplines willing and most capable to help.

My advice: be creative, honest and selective. Keep sending out resumes and keep people informed what you are looking for.

 
dont ever give up, your time will come, you just have to keep on trying.
 
Thank you, All..

Hi, Everyone....

Thank you all for your encouragement. It's nice to know people do care about their fellow man's success. I will take the advice given in each of your messages.

This is a very difficult career to succeed in. Your kindness is appreciated.

Thanks again.... ;)
 
Keep busy with friends/family. Think of it like a mini-retirement before you get wrinkly!
 
Desert,

What is your story? Were you laid off? When is the last time you flew? Which sector of aviation were you employed in?

Do you have a membership to www.Planejobs.com? How about www.careers.Aero They both seem to have many positions. If you were a corporate pilot, do you have access to an NBAA directory?

Persistence is the key in aviation. As many people have eluded, they sent out many resumes. Do you have a network of contacts? If so, can you let them know you are looking?

While I agree that you should take time for your family and friends, I also believe that you should treat your employment search as a "job."

It can be very difficult to find a job, no matter what the industry. If you are feeling defeated, it is very possible that you are inadvertently communicating that to a potential employer.

There is a saying - "act as if," meaning tell yourself you ARE going to get a job.

This board is an excellent source of contacts. Perhaps if you let us know what part of the aviation world you were employed in, i.e., corporate, airline, etc., maybe someone on the board knows of a position for which you might be qualified.

Just my two cents! :)

Kathy
 
Resume Writer said:
Desert,

What is your story? Were you laid off? When is the last time you flew? Which sector of aviation were you employed in?

Do you have a membership to www.Planejobs.com? How about www.careers.Aero They both seem to have many positions. If you were a corporate pilot, do you have access to an NBAA directory?

Persistence is the key in aviation. As many people have eluded, they sent out many resumes. Do you have a network of contacts? If so, can you let them know you are looking?

While I agree that you should take time for your family and friends, I also believe that you should treat your employment search as a "job."

It can be very difficult to find a job, no matter what the industry. If you are feeling defeated, it is very possible that you are inadvertently communicating that to a potential employer.

There is a saying - "act as if," meaning tell yourself you ARE going to get a job.

This board is an excellent source of contacts. Perhaps if you let us know what part of the aviation world you were employed in, i.e., corporate, airline, etc., maybe someone on the board knows of a position for which you might be qualified.

Just my two cents! :)

Kathy
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Hi Kathy.....

My challenge is to overcome the down days. As long as I have hope of something happening, I'm fine. It's when you have put in all the effort you can and experience a long calm period that it gets hard not to get depressed.

Network? I do have a pretty good network of pilot friends. I try to keep in touch and help them too.

You point about conveying feeling defeated to the employer was a very good point! I will avoid contact with potential employers on those down days.... Good point!

I appreciate you time and also your helpful posts to FlightInfo.

By the way, my experience is in both 121 and 135 flying passenger operations. My last job, was as a King Air 200 pilot. I have a CE-500 type rating (not current) and 8200 hours of flight time.

I am looking for a job in Nevada, Arizona, California flying any type of jet.

Thanks again.
 
labbats said:
Keep busy with friends/family. Think of it like a mini-retirement before you get wrinkly!
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I need, a Vacation, from my Vacation.
AND
I need, more Money, from my Money!

:):):)
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Hi Desert,

Here is my suggestion to you and also for others. In many of the major cities across the U.S., there is a publication called The Business Journal. It is a weekly business paper and is focused on the business in each city where they are located. I think there are 42 cities across the US if my memory serves me. Go to this link: http://www.bizjournals.com/subscribe/ and see if there is a Business Journal in the city where you want to live. I know there is one in PHX because I subscribe to it! :)

Now, here is the part I want to pass along. They put out a publication called "The Book of Lists" for each city. There are lists for everything imaginable. I know I saw the "Top 25 Aircraft Charter Companies" in the PHX book a few months ago.

However, there is a Top 25 printed every week in the Biz Journal for all kinds of industries and then they print them up once a year into the Book of Lists. They list contact info, company size, etc. I believe you can find these books in the library reference section. That might be a good source of contact information and you can cross reference them possibly into an aircraft database (If you can look up by company).

Just a thought for everyone!

Kathy
 
A1flyboy,

I appreciate your thoughtfulness! :) However, I do not try to push my services on anyone. I try to be a resource and if people feel they need my assistance with writing their career documents, then they can certainly contact me. It is totally up to the individual and how comfortable they are in presenting their qualifications to a potential employer. I just really enjoy passing along information to everyone on this board because they are so appreciative!

Kathy


A1FlyBoy said:
Kathy,

Perhaps you can offer your services and work up his resume...

Hmmmmm?
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For younger guys breaking into the industry with bare mins I would suggest going to your local FBO or fuel handler etc and getting a job on the ramp. Many people including myself help people we know. If you become a fixture with a good report, they will recognize that. I met many friends while re-fueling aircraft.

And can contribute both of my aviation jobs to it. They were not people that I used to get a job, they are lifelong friends.

I have always wanted to work for FedEx. After 2 years of fueling I saw and befriended many FedEx guys. They would ask how my training was going etc. Got to know them well and they were genuine friends.

At the time I was far from being FedEx material. After reading the FedEx post a LOR can be all it takes to get you to the top of the pile. If I saw any of those guys today I would not ask for a LOR but I would accept one if they offered.

Mark

Short story

I owned a Grumman AA-1 Yankee. I was sitting on the run-up with my girlfriend at the time. It was around 9 or so at night and a very hot august night. A FedEx 727 was taxing up to hold short of the runway. I had the canopy open almost all the way and my girlfriend was taking her shirt off to put a tank top on. I did not seem out of the norm as I was doing my checklist. I looked up and all 3 guys in the 727 had their heads glued to the side of the co-pilot window. The next time I saw those guys they gave me all kinds of crap. "what, do you make them take there shirt off for a ride or what"

 

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