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minitour

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Well...weather...um...what to say...

Okay, to all of you CFI/II/MEI out there, how much of "weather" do you need to know for the checkrides/orals that you've taken...

Trying to get ready for the Instrument ride/oral and I'm figuring if there's something I might need to know down the line, I might as well learn it now...

ATP guys/girls...what about you folks...anything specific with weather that you need to know?

I've heard that as long as you can read a METAR/TAF/FA/etc...you should be fine, but that sounds a little bit too easy...

I'm looking over Latent Heat of Water and Adiabatic lapse rate and all of that shiyat...man does this suck...

Thanks for the help
-mini
 
I had to know just basic weather theory. Like what happens when the dewpoint and temperature are close together, or what type of weather are you going to get with a low pressure system? Be able to read the weather charts, and explain them. My guess is you are not going to have to know about latent heat or lapse rate. If this is for the initial instrument, just have a grasp on the main concepts of weather (just what you read in the jepp or other training text). Maybe know what kind of weather with frontal systems. Hardly any weather will be covered, it is not a big area, at least for my rides. I only got asked about a few questions about weather on my private and instrument ride. Nothing on my commercial or CFI ride.
 
Agreed. Latent heat certainly was never covered. Lapse rate may have been briefly touched on, but that was a few years ago.

Basic stuff is really all you need. Frontal system, typical low pressure system, associated elements with the various fronts (temp, dewpoint, pressure, etc.).

Dedicated lots of time to the weather charts. Be able to read METAR/TAF/FA/UA and WA, WS, WST. Valid times, etc. Become one with your Aviation Weather Services book.
 
It's been my experience that the examiners do not spend a great deal of time on weather, other than the basics listed above. I'm not sure why this is.

I've found that I have to know a lot more about weather in the real world than I have ever had to demonstrate on a checkride.
 
Unless you're taking your check ride with Tom Skilling (Chicago's WGN weather man) I wouldn't worry.
Know how to read the radar pics, and pressure charts. Have a better than basic understanding of weather. Don't need to know EVERYTHING though.
Outside my private, we barely touched wx on my other check rides.
Know when you're going to ice up, and dew point spreads.
 
Study the WX section in the ASA Instrument oral exam guide and you should be fine for the Airman Inst. checkride. I can't even recall being asked more than 5 or so wx related questions on my II ride there at Airman which all came from the ASA guide.


If you know that guide, the aim, taf, metars, fa, then you should be fine. Airman is not going to go into "overkill" with you with regards to wx, they simply want to see that you have a strong foundation and that you can make safe and sound wx related decisions based upon wx information that you have available to you.

If you get Clint for the I ride then you can expect "very few" wx related questions. Just make sure you answer those "very few" wx related questions correctly or very few may turn into very many.;)


good luck,

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Anything in the PTS is fair game. . . . I know Airman pretty well and what they like to ask so pm me if you need any additional information. If you study the above mentioned areas of wx then you should do just fine.
 
Weather??? Well on my rides the guy was big on the charts... Low level prog charts and all that jazz. I would definately know how to read all the text weather.(metar/taf/pilot reports etc...) But I would review the charts too.
 
350DRIVER said:
Study the WX section in the ASA Instrument oral exam guide and you should be fine for the Airman Inst. checkride. I can't even recall being asked more than 5 or so wx related questions on my II ride there at Airman which all came from the ASA guide.


If you know that guide, the aim, taf, metars, fa, then you should be fine. Airman is not going to go into "overkill" with you with regards to wx, they simply want to see that you have a strong foundation and that you can make safe and sound wx related decisions based upon wx information that you have available to you.

If you get Clint for the I ride then you can expect "very few" wx related questions. Just make sure you answer those "very few" wx related questions correctly or very few may turn into very many.;)


good luck,

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Anything in the PTS is fair game. . . . I know Airman pretty well and what they like to ask so pm me if you need any additional information. If you study the above mentioned areas of wx then you should do just fine.
You mean to tell me I just spent the past week learning all sorts of stupid **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** about fronts and lapse rates and cloud types and all that horse **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**!?!?!


MOTHER **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ER!?!?!!!

that feels better now

Alright...so....I've just gotta make sure I remember how to read the charts....sweet....Hell, a trained monkey can do that...

-mini
 
minitour said:
You mean to tell me I just spent the past week learning all sorts of stupid **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** about fronts and lapse rates and cloud types and all that horse **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**!?!?!


MOTHER **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ER!?!?!!!

that feels better now

Alright...so....I've just gotta make sure I remember how to read the charts....sweet....Hell, a trained monkey can do that...

-mini
You may not need it to get through Airman progams but at some point down the line your ''additional" knowledge in this area(s) will surely be needed so study as much as you can, it will not hurt you and will allow you to be more well versed in wx subject areas and that will be a big "positive" that surely will help you out at some point down the line. Airman is step I, you have many more steps and hurdles ahead of you so your hard work will pay off at some point down the line..

keep up the hard work my friend...

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Why the hell is everyone so hell bent on trying to learn what they don't have to know about weather. learn everything you can about it, beacause there isnt going to be one day that you dont have to deal with it. if you spent just half the time you spend trying to find out "just tell me what i need to know for the ride" you wouldn't need to be scared of it.
 
SpeedMetal said:
Why the hell is everyone so hell bent on trying to learn what they don't have to know about weather. learn everything you can about it, beacause there isnt going to be one day that you dont have to deal with it. if you spent just half the time you spend trying to find out "just tell me what i need to know for the ride" you wouldn't need to be scared of it.
Gee thanks, I'll log that away...:rolleyes:

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't start spouting off...

You may have an amazing kowledge on weather and other aeronautical facts, but you don't know d*ck about me...not the books I've read, the people I talked to, and certainly not my work ethic regarding studying for my future.

The last time I checked this was an information website, where people ask questions that they don't know the answer to. Normally when someone asks a question, they would like a respectable answer. Not some smart@ss with panties in a bunch tossing attitude all over the place. All you had to say was "learn as much as you can about it, you deal with it every day". Really, no need to go on and on about how I don't put in the time and effort into my studies.

Well, to everyone else, thanks for the help. I've been reading a lot lately and have learned a lot just by looking up! Hopefully I can put it to good use some day.

-mini
 

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