Watergate at FLOPS

[glasspilot]

It's amazing how much overtime can be picked up if everyone else stops picking it up.

I was at an airline that was furloughing and to help with furloughs pilots didn't fly on days off and pick up extra time. I didn't mind the pay cut as it was helping union brothers keep their job. Then one day I ran into a chick who was boasting how fat her checks were. Couldn't believe how easy it was to pick up time. My jaw dropped and I told her why it was so easy. Her quote, "I have to do what I have to do". So now my sacrafice wasn't going to the junior guys looking at furlough, it was going to her and those of her ilk.

grrrrrrr. I'm getting mad now just thinking about it. I gotta go...

 

[jetwash]

I had an FO who had no problem working OT.

I explained to him how he looked very tired to me because of all the OT he was doing and I thought that it would be better if he didn't fly any legs and just sat there and worked the radio all week.

I made sure my only communication with him was company or work related and that was only if I really need to inform him on something.

He got the message very quickly and now knows how I feel.
I think he has come to his sences regarding OT now and will be spending more time at home with his family.

 

[Dep676]

I had an FO who had no problem working OT.

I explained to him how he looked very tired to me because of all the OT he was doing and I thought that it would be better if he didn't fly any legs and just sat there and worked the radio all week.

I made sure my only communication with him was company or work related and that was only if I really need to inform him on something.

He got the message very quickly and now knows how I feel.
I think he has come to his sences regarding OT now and will be spending more time at home with his family.

I am glad you did that to him.

 

[dash_trash]

FO's Perspective

When el Capatain is not participating, I volunteer (no Option) to ride the mike and pull gear for the week!!! They usually come around after a few days of "flying the line" on their own.

 

[futurepizzaguy]

How is accepting overtime or not accepting overtime really affecting the company anyways? Planes are sitting green and uncrewed regardless of OT. If I need (or want) the money and ot is offered...I do it. Until we can get some sort of contract or raise or any other way of compensation....it's pretty ridiculous to ask me to decline this extra money.

Just my too sense.....

 

[gunfyter]

Every day you extend is another month before you get a contract.

 

[TurboHonda]

How is accepting overtime or not accepting overtime really affecting the company anyways? Planes are sitting green and uncrewed regardless of OT. If I need (or want) the money and ot is offered...I do it. Until we can get some sort of contract or raise or any other way of compensation....it's pretty ridiculous to ask me to decline this extra money.

Just my too sense.....

It's also pretty ridiculous for you to think that you will be a respected member of any crew.

What I"m saying is what many pilots are thinking. If your short term gain is worth a long term stigma, then go for it.

 

[FR8DOG777]

Oh Really

How is accepting overtime or not accepting overtime really affecting the company anyways? Planes are sitting green and uncrewed regardless of OT. If I need (or want) the money and ot is offered...I do it. Until we can get some sort of contract or raise or any other way of compensation....it's pretty ridiculous to ask me to decline this extra money.

Just my too sense.....

Well think about this also. If you do overtime right now with green planes sitting all over the country you are helping the company more than yourself. How much are you making in overtime per day? It doesn't really matter because one charter would most likely be 10 times your daily overtime rate. In case you haven't heard I will let you know Mr. Pizzaguy, that we are in contract negotiations. We, as a group, will not achieve the desired results if you continue doing "FAVORS" for FLOPS. We will get a TA on the table as soon as FLOPS realizes that it costs more to fight us than to join us. On that note don't worry about putting FLOPS out of business, because they will do whatever they think it takes to stay in business. Including paying us industry standard wages and benefits, when they find it a financial benefit to them.

 

[Freedom]

And there will be a Stigma:

You may not have been publicly Outed YET, but it is coming.

I personally am aware of the Plans. I suggest you correct your ways while you still have time to do so. You are either with Us (Your Fellow Pilots) or with them (Management).

Good Luck with your life on the road once you and those like you have been publicly outed. Its coming, and you have been warned.

Freedom is not Free.

 

[HSDriver]

How is accepting overtime or not accepting overtime really affecting the company anyways? Planes are sitting green and uncrewed regardless of OT. If I need (or want) the money and ot is offered...I do it. Until we can get some sort of contract or raise or any other way of compensation....it's pretty ridiculous to ask me to decline this extra money.

Just my too sense.....

You're hurting yourself with shortsightedness. If you keep doing overtime they need less pilots. If they need less pilots they will lay off. There is nothing that says they have to do it by seniority. They want to get get rid of highests payed crewmwmbers. That means high on the seniority list and pic's. Even if they go in reverse seniority that means some may get demoted.

At the very least you are prolonging negotiations which is costing you money because of no overtime pay on early shows and long days, and no incentive days when they get you home late on the last day.

HS