Watergate at FLOPS

[FR8DOG777]

I guess our union brothers and sisters at FLOPS must be getting to all the "low lives" that are doing overtime for the company. Mr. T. has been running around the OCC trying to find out how someone has hacked into the CAMP program. This is hilarious. Our VP of flight is so concerned that we may find out who is doing overtime when maybe he should be sitting at the bargaining table and not falling asleep, not doing crossword puzzles, or not taking personal phone calls. People if you are doing overtime there is no need to go running to Bob sniveling and whining to him that you are afraid someone might find out. Someone will always find out if you do overtime. The first place you should look is the person sitting next to you in the plane. Most will rat you out in a second. Second place you should look is in the mirror. the people I know that are doing overtime act like they have something to hide. That is good because deep down you know it is wrong to be doing overtime right now and the guilt is catching up to you. I have yet to meet someone that is proud to be doing overtime. Maybe thats why there isn't a thread on the FLOPS www.IBT1108.org titled "I'm doing OT and proud of it". So guys if you want the respect of your coworkers, and peers please knock it off with the overtime. Friends will outlast any manager at this place. Don't piss off your friends.

 

[GVFlyer]

At one of the major hubs, I was talking to a Flight Options pilot, an older guy, who didn't seem to have any problem telling me he routinely flew over one hundred hours a month.

GV

 

[cjdriver]

That was probably a Hawker dude, and he probably doesn't even work OT.

 

[FR8DOG777]

100 hours

I'm going to have to call bologna on 100 hours a month at FLOPS. I used to do a lot of OT myself back in the day and never was able to get over 70 hours of flight time a month. I believe that is a total exaggeration. I am guessing he may have told you that looking for sympathy. Think about that 100 hours a month would be over 3 hours each and every day of that month of FLIGHT time. Things happen at FLOPS just like other companies. You have broken planes, late pax, and time sitting on standby between legs. For the sake of argument we work 16.6 days a month that would equate out to a little over 6 hours FLOWN each and every day including your two travel days. I am not doubting what you were told by this pilot, but I seriously doubt his information is accurate. Also a 100 hours a month would most likely put him in violation with the FAR's of 800 hours in 2 consecutive calender quarters. Or at least to the maximum the FAR's would allow. The average pilot at FLOPS fly about 600 hours a year working every other week. Using logic again, this pilot would have to fly everyday of the year. Sorry I just don't think that is plausible

 

[NJA bound]

Been at NetJets a year, I don't think I've ever broke 50 hours in one month.

 

[400pilot]

My buddy in the hawker flys an average of 45 hrs each tour. He has done more than 50.

Also a 100 hours a month would most likely put him in violation with the FAR's of 800 hours in 2 consecutive calender quarters. Or at least to the maximum the FAR's would allow.

How do you figure? 100 hrs X 6 months is 600hrs.....not even close to 800.

A quarter is 3 months, not 4 months.

 

[gunfyter]

I have had two 100 hr months at NJA... in 8 yrs

 

[FR8DOG777]

oops

oops you are correct a quarter is 3 months not 4. I miss figured that one but to 100 hour month is not the norm.

 

[b350capt]

know the hawker guys would routinely clock in around 90+ hours, that was two years ago. We'd hit around 50 on average in the 560, but thats why they called it the citation vacation. I saw the writing on the wall and bailed 2 years ago. To the brothers still in the fight, my thoughts are with you guys.

 

[Dep676]

As far as flying 100 hours a month, it could happen but not every month. I am talking about someone flying the Pro-line XP's. The newer ones just go and go. I have talked to a few guys in them and they routinely hit close to 50 hours a week.

Next for the OT, you could fly 10 hours a month and still do OT. The OT has nothing to do with the amount of hours flown. It has to do with the number of days worked in a month.

Now for tracking someone working OT. There is no need to crack into CAMP, you can tell by using your crackberry.