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Doogie

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Anyone have any info on anyone looking for a warm body to fill the right seat? Looking for east Tx but will consider other areas. Previous experience is 200 hours in a king air before the company went out of business.


Thanks for the help
Doogie
 
You do 2 things by wanting to be a "Warm Body".

1. You underestimate your abilities and worth as a crewmember.

2. You make it hard for us who need to get paid in order to
support our families!!!

If everyone worked for nothing, that's what you would have!!
 
I am not saying that I will do it for free. I would just like someone to take a chance with a guy that doesn't have 1000tt. I need to build some hours and its hard to do.

Doogie
 
Hate to be the jacka$$....

Try flight instructing....and believe it or not, you may like it!

I've yet to find anyone to take a change with a guy who has just less than 2500TT, so, good luck.
 
I never forget this day.

I was workiong at a small 135 operator in DAL and some guy lookng for a job walks in. Of course he is looking for a job and hands me his resume he then porceeds to tell me that he has NO instructor time and that all of his time is real (1200 TT and 450 turbine). I almost punched him in the bean bag. Wow, the arrogance that the guy looked down his nose at instructing. I didnt want to instruct either but I did Learn alot.

Warm bodies are ok if the aircraft does not require at SIC. if it doesn't require one I still say you CANNOT log it. If it requires an SIC then you must be paid...
 
The only time I have never gotten paid to fly was when i had about 230 hours and got lucky flying a 182 for an aerial photography company. They said once I got my commercial, they would pay me. So that I would be only one of very few instances that it would be ok to be not paid. But yah... flight instructing at least do a little of it if you can, like IP076 said, you may like it.
 
Flight instruction will really sharpen your skills, trust and decision making skillls.

When is too far? How do you recognize the signs? Can you keep cool when the other guy/gal looses it?

Real IFR instruction (when they are ready) - you get to do it all - except touch the controls. Refinement of skills to the budding commercial pilot.

Oh and don't forget multi instruction with the "switch grabber" in the cockpit with you. Vmc demos, stalls hot high and humid

I can tell you every time I climb out at 250 kts I am happy for all my flight instruction time and very appreciative of the $200,000 all those students spent on flight instruction to get me here!
 
8HourPilot said:
Hey IP....thats a basa$$ avatar......

basa$$??? Uh...was that bada$$? If so, thanks! Apparently you get the meaning? PM me.
 
I would have to say that doing the cfi route will sharpen your skills more than anything else. You really learn a lot from the other side and your scan will improve dramatically. I know of a B-58TC job coming up before too long in the CLL area, but when I flew there the insurance required 1200-200. Get that cfi and build the total time up, I think its a natural progression to the pilot career. Pay your dues, it will pay off a lot in the end.
 
Pay your dues

All of the above posts are correct.... pay your dues. Flight Instruction is a great way to build those first few hours of real flight time. From there network like crazy and your time will come, but please don't work for free. That is what brings the pay for all pilots down.
 
Thedude said:
I never forget this day.

I was workiong at a small 135 operator in DAL and some guy lookng for a job walks in. Of course he is looking for a job and hands me his resume he then porceeds to tell me that he has NO instructor time and that all of his time is real (1200 TT and 450 turbine). I almost punched him in the bean bag. Wow, the arrogance that the guy looked down his nose at instructing. I didnt want to instruct either but I did Learn alot.

Warm bodies are ok if the aircraft does not require at SIC. if it doesn't require one I still say you CANNOT log it. If it requires an SIC then you must be paid...
I wish we could hire a guy like that now and then and put him the left seat of the caravan on his own, just to see what type of NTSB report would come out of it.

One of those types of guys did come out to the drop zone to fly for us one time. I didn't do his training, but the skydivers took him on references that he knew what he was doing because, "he flies king airs!". Evidently the jumpers didn't understand the concept of guys who fly SIC in single pilot aircraft, thinking they are all that.

He wasn't doing so well out there with flying the 182, so the jumpers asked me to do some remedial...to which his reply was after he almost spun a Horton Stol equiped plane in with some of my friends..."I don't need this SH!T, I fly KING AIRS for a living!".

Yea, sure you do punk.
 
Doogie if you like, I own a global express. PM me after you buy your type rating, we can do some international flying. :) :) :)
 
I got a 777 that needs a copilot, fly all over the world. PM me, I'll hook you up.

P.S. Smallish training fee required!
 
Hey FN FAL;
I apoligize you had a bad experience with an arrogant dummy that thought he could fly jumpers. So he could fly King Airs, BFD. Driving a 206/182 is a different critter all together. By nature, skydivers would rather not be on an airplane. They would rather be outside-in the air. I am very satisfied that my customers always come back for more year after year. I also do demo jumps. It is a respectable way to build time and get PAID for it. A little is better that PFT. A good jump pilot is worth his wieght and can make a DZO money. Like any other kind of pilot. Train them right and best wishes.

Blue Skies
T206 Driver`
 
T206driver said:
Hey FN FAL;
It is a respectable way to build time and get PAID for it. A little is better that PFT. A good jump pilot is worth his wieght and can make a DZO money.
Right on, brother.
 

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