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737Wannabe

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Did anybody catch this Urgent Pirep today? Volcano near Elkhart, IN?! :nuts:
Check it out....I'm not making this up

EKM UUA /OV GIJ090020 /TM 1208 /FL370 /TP E135 /RM LGT VOLCANIC ASH/STRONG SULFUR SMELL
 
Did anybody catch this Urgent Pirep today? Volcano near Elkhart, IN?! :nuts:
Check it out....I'm not making this up

EKM UUA /OV GIJ090020 /TM 1208 /FL370 /TP E135 /RM LGT VOLCANIC ASH/STRONG SULFUR SMELL

That is the negative aspect of banning gels on aircraft. Your FO can't bring his deoderant.
 
So Typical

You know what? That is very typical of captains....the captain lets out a Panda Express loaded stinker and looks at the FO and blames it on Sulphur from a so called "volcano". They might even take it a step further and ask if the FO smells it: "Take a deep breath...doesn't it smell like sulphur?"
 
So exactly what does the ash look like?
I was up by Calgary earlier in the week and they were giving out advisories and people where moving around like crazy...
Also, if you start to smell the sulphur, does that mean your engines are toast, or do you have a fe inutes to get out of it?
Practical guidance is severely lacking in this arena
 
Identifying and Responding to Ashes

This was taken from an article in Boeing's Aero Magazine
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_09/volcanic_story.html


SPECIFIC FLIGHT CREW ACTIONS REQUIRED IN RESPONSE TO ENCOUNTERS
Despite ongoing avoidance efforts, operators can still experience volcanic ash encounters. Guidance on the operational issues surrounding volcanic ash is divided into three aspects: avoidance, recognition, and procedures. The following information is general; flight crews should refer to their respective company's operating manuals for details.

AVOIDANCE
Preventing flight into potential ash environments requires planning in these areas:

* Dispatch needs to provide flight crews with information about volcanic events, such as potentially eruptive volcanoes and known ash sightings, that could affect a particular route (see sidebar page).
* Dispatch also needs to identify alternate routes to help flight crews avoid airspace containing volcanic ash.
* Flight crews should stay upwind of volcanic ash and dust.
* Flight crews should note that airborne weather radar is ineffective for distinguishing ash and small dust particles.


RECOGNITION
Indicators that an airplane is penetrating volcanic ash are related to odor, haze, changing engine conditions, airspeed, pressurization, and static discharges.

* Odor. When encountering a volcanic ash cloud, flight crews usually notice a smoky or acrid odor that can smell like electrical smoke, burned dust, or sulfur.
* Haze. Most flight crews, as well as cabin crew or passengers, see a haze develop within the airplane. Dust can settle on surfaces.
* Changing engine conditions. Surging, torching from the tailpipe, and flameouts can occur. Engine temperatures can change unexpectedly, and a white glow can appear at the engine inlet.
* Airspeed. If volcanic ash fouls the pitot tube, the indicated airspeed can decrease or fluctuate erratically.
* Pressurization. Cabin pressure can change, including possible loss of cabin pressurization.
* Static discharges. A phenomenon similar to St. Elmo's fire or glow can occur. In these instances, blue-colored sparks can appear to flow up the outside of the windshield or a white glow can appear at the leading edges of the wings or at the front of the engine inlets.



PROCEDURES
The following nine procedures are general recommendations. Each operator's flight operations manuals will include more specific directions.

1. Reduce thrust to idle immediately. By reducing thrust, engines may suffer less buildup of molten debris on turbine blades and hot-section components. Idle thrust allows engines to continue producing electrical power, bleed air for pressurization, and hydraulic power for airplane control.
2. Turn the autothrottles off. This prevents the engines from increasing thrust above idle. Ash debris in the engine can result in reduced surge margins, and limiting the number of thrust adjustments improves the chances of engine recovery.
3. Exit the ash cloud as quickly as possible. A 180-deg turn out of the ash cloud using a descending turn is the quickest exit strategy. Many ash clouds extend for hundreds of miles, so assuming that the encounter will end shortly can be false. Climbing out of the ash could result in increased engine debris buildup as the result of increased temperatures. The increased engine buildup can cause total thrust loss.
4. Turn on engine and wing anti-ice devices and all air-conditioning packs. These actions improve the engine stall margins by increasing the flow of bleed air.
5. If possible, start the auxiliary power unit (APU). The APU can power systems in the event of a multiple-engine power loss. It can also be used to restart engines through the use of APU bleed air.
6. If volcanic dust fills the flight deck, the crew may need to use oxygen. Use flight deck oxygen at the 100 percent setting. Manual deployment of the passenger oxygen system is not required because it will deploy automatically if the cabin altitude exceeds 14,000 ft.
7. Turn on the continuous ignition. Confirm that autostart is on, if available. In the event that the engines flame out or stall, use appropriate procedures to restart the engines. During restart, the engines may take longer than normal to reach idle thrust due to the combined effects of high altitude and volcanic ash ingestion. If an engine fails to start, try restarting it again immediately. Flight crews should remember that the airplane may be out of the airstart envelope if the encounter occurs during cruise.
8. Monitor engine exhaust gas temperature (EGT). Because of potential engine debris buildup, the EGT can climb excessively. The flight crew should prevent EGT exceedances. Shut down the engine and restart it if the EGT is approaching limits similar to a hung start.
9. Fly the airplane by monitoring airspeed and pitch attitude. If necessary, follow the procedure for flight with unreliable airspeed.

For further reading

ICAO EUR DOC 019 "Volcanic Ash Contingecy Plan"
http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/357.pdf

Flight Safety Foundation, Flight Safety Digest May 1993 "Volcanic Hazards and Aviation Safety: Lessons of the Past Decade"
http://www.flightsafety.org/fsd/fsd_may93.pdf
 

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