Virgin Q's

[Yuppyguppy]

No because the new UAL is going to double up in LAX...

 

[Ralph Cramden]

No because the new UAL is going to double up in LAX...

I was assuming the question was if LAX domicile was growing. LAX routes are growing quite a bit over the next 18 months. We compete quite well with UAL in SFO and LAX. Thanks for playing...

 

[thunderworm]

I think it is $2500/mo in training. 70 hr line guarantee starts at type ride pass. No hotels in SFO (Red Roof is near by @ $49/night). Hotels and $1.75 hr perdiem during the sim DFW/MIA plus of course PS travel.

Welcome again...

Ralphie

So basically 2/3 of your pay goes to paying the hotel. Nice! Why can't companies just play nice and treat people like they want them there? For most of us it is not our first rodeo and not getting a wage enough to live on is getting old.

 

[mesaserf]

So basically 2/3 of your pay goes to paying the hotel. Nice! Why can't companies just play nice and treat people like they want them there? For most of us it is not our first rodeo and not getting a wage enough to live on is getting old.

They want to humiliate and degrade you from the start. That way you will gladly fly a 150 seat jet for RJ wages. Oh... and you get to dress up and look like a black jack dealer from the Hooters Casino in LAS.

I think they should start a human behavior study to see just how much humiliation new hires will take before they quit. Maybe start with having all employees crawl across the threshold of the training center on their hands and knees. Put up a huge picture of Branson smiling down on them in the lobby.

This is just standard operating procedure for Branson and his minions. Somehow he gets away with paying people $hit wages while his PR machine keeps people thinking he is some kind of second coming. Just look at the news rack, you almost always see that jack ass grinning from the cover of some magazine while doing something cool and adventurous.

All the while his employees have to go on government assistance because they can't make ends meet.

 

[CitationLover]

They want to humiliate and degrade you from the start. That way you will gladly fly a 150 seat jet for RJ wages. Oh... and you get to dress up and look like a black jack dealer from the Hooters Casino in LAS.

I think they should start a human behavior study to see just how much humiliation new hires will take before they quit. Maybe start with having all employees crawl across the threshold of the training center on their hands and knees. Put up a huge picture of Branson smiling down on them in the lobby.

This is just standard operating procedure for Branson and his minions. Somehow he gets away with paying people $hit wages while his PR machine keeps people thinking he is some kind of second coming. Just look at the news rack, you almost always see that jack ass grinning from the cover of some magazine while doing something cool and adventurous.

All the while his employees have to go on government assistance because they can't make ends meet.

This from someone who worked for Ornstein?

Pot meet kettle.

 

[sitnresrv]

Um, did someone get turned down by Virgin America? And having worked for or currently with Mesa gives you the authority and expert opinion to judge other pilots decision making how?

 

[big shacks]

That's hilarious!!!! a Mesa dude complaining about low balling

 

[Ralph Cramden]

So basically 2/3 of your pay goes to paying the hotel. Nice! Why can't companies just play nice and treat people like they want them there? For most of us it is not our first rodeo and not getting a wage enough to live on is getting old.

Hotels are paid for out of domicile. My last carriers never paid for hotels IN domicile either. If investing a few $$ for a crash pad in training and during the few reserve months is beneath you then stay where you are.

 

[thunderworm]

Isn't there 3 bases? I thought that until you finished training you wouldn't have a base therefore the company would put you up during training. Every other company I have worked for did. I don't know what to say about your last sentence. I think the topic of taking it in the shorts financially has been covered. It is up to the individual to do what is best for themselves. I just wish that we all as a group realized what we are worth.

 

[Chairman]

Isn't there 3 bases? I thought that until you finished training you wouldn't have a base therefore the company would put you up during training. Every other company I have worked for did. I don't know what to say about your last sentence. I think the topic of taking it in the shorts financially has been covered. It is up to the individual to do what is best for themselves. I just wish that we all as a group realized what we are worth.

UAL didn't put anyone up at that was over 6 weeks and there pay was less to start. Not saying its right but they are not the only one!