USAPA wins appeal!!!!!!

[Lear70]

Please don't use colorful ways to get around the profanity sensors.

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[C Festerpuss]

Corngradualtions - Phoenix

I promise not to uze profanity, but sumtimes I has been known to cuss a bit....

Corngraulations is in order for Phoenix because they just passed 1000 members in good standing in USAPA. It has took a long time and there has been some feudin but now they have the numbers to have three (3) Reps.

I believe that the President will appoint a temporary Rep while nominations and elections are held for a permanent Rep.

I am waiting for the opening of the CDD base. That's the "Confederate Dixie Domicile". With the closin of Boston and New York there are too many Yankees in Charlotte.

Cletus

 

[Cloudroller]

Ok WOW, a West pilot spewing about integrity in ones career. Uhmmm..excuse me, but EXACTLY WHERE AND AT WHAT LEVEL was the West pilots contract at through the years???? Did the west pilots continually raise the bar to help the profession to new levels of work rules and pay rates????

Did the west pilots strive and able to attain at any point in their career top of industry pay rates??? and work rules????

At ANY TIME IN THE HISTORY of the West were they able to attain this????????

Or did they simply get on with any passenger carrier they could, agreeing to work at substandard wages and work rules, happy to be flying something with a jet engine on it??? Or happy to have a job after 9/11??? Any pay check will do???

Or do I have amnesia and have forgotten how the West pilots were the cream de la cream and the envy of every other airline out there?????


No I think it was partially the America West that helped LOWER the bar to the wage levels we currently see the industry at. How else would you be at your HIGHEST pay rates ever. And have the best work rules you currently have????

YOU rode the backs of every other pilot out there, and sat on their shoulders, pulling THEM down to your level. Don't give me crap about integrity or how great of a career you were destined for. (Though I guess If I started at San Jose CC and continued to Mesa to Mesa Grande I too would think of the West as an upgrade)

Anyways.... It's sort of like you guys wanting to jump in line and fly those wide bodies to destinations you never dreamed of flying to. At pay rates your airline would never see in your career. Hey I'm sure you were planning on going to a real airline after the industry recovered from 9/11....but here we are.

Lets see - West Coast guys make more than the east coast guys. America West was making money, US Air was not. America West bought US Air. Really if you want to point fingers, why dont you point them at Doug Parker? I have friends on both sides. Its the few inmature guys that get crap started.

Where do you think you would be working right now, if America West did not buy you?

PS - your wide body Airbus are falling apart. And I dont know any West Coast guys that have an interest in flying them or moving to the east coast. Do you think WN has been lowering the bar? It was not too long ago, when their pay was not at the top. What about Frontier, Spirit, or Airtran?

 

[BeCareful!]

Lets see - West Coast guys make more than the east coast guys. America West was making money, US Air was not. America West bought US Air. Really if you want to point fingers, why dont you point them at Doug Parker? I have friends on both sides. Its the few inmature guys that get crap started.

Where do you think you would be working right now, if America West did not buy you?

PS - your wide body Airbus are falling apart. And I dont know any West Coast guys that have an interest in flying them or moving to the east coast. Do you think WN has been lowering the bar? It was not too long ago, when their pay was not at the top. What about Frontier, Spirit, or Airtran?

Oh, well I guess you showed him, haha.

As you said: Let's see - In the big picture, west only makes a little bit more than east. East used to make much higher wages.

And let's see - Who destroyed the east payscales? ALPA did. ALPA at US Air was inane and needed to go. ALPA at AWA was only slightly less inane, but they did get a contract at a difficult time in the industry, so good on them.

However, AWA did NOT buy US Airways. That's just stupid, and everyone knows it. You have any documentation of that?

Accountants are pretty amazing with their craft, but if AWA was so almighty profitable, and US Air was supposedly not, why has AWA's flying shrunk so much after the merge? What happened to LAS? Maybe their books were cooked a bit and USAir's were watered down, not sure, but post merge it's clear that the profit comes from the East operation.

The fact that you don't actually know any west pilots who want to move east should their precious Nicolau windfall come their way doesn't mean they aren't out there. In fact I know of several who live driving distance to PHL. You think they wouldn't cash in on super seniority and eliminate their weekly commute to PHX if they could? Whatever you're smokin', I'm certain it won't pass a piss test.

 

[ableone]

And let's see - Who destroyed the east payscales? ALPA did. ALPA at US Air was inane and needed to go. ALPA at AWA was only slightly less inane, but they did get a contract at a difficult time in the industry, so good on them.

Ah, so ALPA national imposed LOA93 on the poor pilots of USAir? The majority of USAir pilots never voted to accept the lower pay rates?

It was all the fault of a nefarious caped supervillan sporting an ALPA logo on his chest. Got it.

You are forever delusional about what happened let alone about what has not yet happened.

 

[becket]

Ah, so ALPA national imposed LOA93 on the poor pilots of USAir? The majority of USAir pilots never voted to accept the lower pay rates?

It was all the fault of a nefarious caped supervillan sporting an ALPA logo on his chest. Got it.

You are forever delusional about what happened let alone about what has not yet happened.

Yes. This is exactly right. Super villan "ALPA" ( who in reality is actually the very pilots of US Airways) concocted a plan so dubious and convoluted as to escape reason, common sense, and accountability.

Wouldn't it stand to reason that if you elected a new union, fully staffed by former ALPA members, that you'd get a product at least as dysfunctional as the mysterious dark ALPA? Isn't the definition of insanity repeating the same behavior over and over expecting different results?

Easties are flat out idiots...with Cleary leading the way.