USAPA MOU vote results

[DorkProp]

2013 MOU Referendum

Official Results

Ballot ending: 02/08/2013 14:00:00 (Eastern)

The ballots were cast and tallied as follows.
TOTAL

Do you vote in favor of the MOU? (please check one) Total Percent
Yes, I am in favor of the MOU 2693 75.94
No, I am opposed to the MOU 853 24.06
Total 3546

Do you authorize converting the Furloughed Pilot Medical Assessment funds to fund merger related expenses? (please check one) Total Percent
Yes, I am in favor converting the funds 2278 64.92
No, I am opposed to converting the funds 1231 35.08
Total 3509


There were 3740 eligible voters, of which 3547 cast a ballot, representing 94.8% of the eligible voters.
Of the 3547 ballots cast, 868 (24.5%) were by phone, and 2679 (75.5%) were by web.
There were 0 ballots cast in which the voter did not make a selection.
There were 276 ballots declared void.

These Official Results witnessed and certified by Bill McKee, Rob Streble, John Mahlman, Gary Hummel and Matt Bradley.

 

[dugan jones]

Now the question is...who were the 276 idiots that couldn't color in the circle :laugh:

 

[Flying Horses]

Now the question is...who were the 276 idiots that couldn't color in the circle :laugh:

Must be hanging chads.

 

[TWA Dude]

They were members in bad standing.

 

[LearLove]

Must be hanging chads.

Fl commuters

 

[get2flyin]

I guess you CAN fix stupid.

 

[becket]

I guess you CAN fix stupid.

You know those CLT terrorists are going to try and pull some bs stunt for a do over. They will never ever accept reality.

 

[The Drizzle]

You know those CLT terrorists are going to try and pull some bs stunt for a do over. They will never ever accept reality.

I dunno, these raises can buy a lot of mild farina and golf pants.

 

[cbrown1]

You know those CLT terrorists are going to try and pull some bs stunt for a do over. They will never ever accept reality.

It's pretty much over for them now, next stop merger and then we're all apa.

 

[xrated]

Angry F/O's now more angry!

 

[5w5flyer]

Oh Crap, you guys realize that with the "synergies" of the merger we might be needing the Furloughed Pilot Medical Fund again. I realize that the MOU has a no furlough clause, but that is about as valuable as a politicians promise.

 

[dugan jones]

Most of the no votes came out of phl

 

[JetMonkey]

Most of the no votes came out of phl

That shouldn't surprise anyone..

 

[cbrown1]

That shouldn't surprise anyone..

Why is that?

 

[captfred]

I thought CLT would have more no votes than PHL.

 

[The Drizzle]

I thought CLT would have more no votes than PHL.

This.

Color me surprised.

 

[LaGarbage Man]

This.

Color me surprised.

Ditto, I thought for sure CLT would be the place to look for the mushroom cloud.

 

[dugan jones]

That shouldn't surprise anyone..

I'm in phl and voted yes

 

[Bringupthebird]

What surprised me was that so many were willing to allow the medical insurance assessment money to become another USAPA slush fund. They haven't used any of the money they have extorted from the pilots productively, yet so many are willing to throw good money after bad.

USAPA - The Gold Standard of Stupidity

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Seriously this. How much more money does it take? We already pay the highest union dues of any carrier and yet are the lowest paid of the Majors (thanks to USAPA and their inability to negotiate with US Airways- profitable for the last 4 years btw) and still they need to raid the money collected for furlough medical expenses and use it for merger related expenses.

"Merger related expenses".... very nebulous term too, but hey no accountability is a USAPA cornerstone.

 

[cactusboy53]

What surprised me was that so many were willing to allow the medical insurance assessment money to become another USAPA slush fund. They haven't used any of the money they have extorted from the pilots productively, yet so many are willing to throw good money after bad.

USAPA - The Gold Standard of Stupidity

USAPA is in "the black" general funding-wise, but we have ZERO money in the bank tagged for Merger Funds. While the MOU has language for the company to reimburse USAPA for merger activities, we will most assuredly use all of that (IMHO). This is why USAPA has in its constitution & bylaws an ability to assess the pilot group for said funds.

The $400,000.00 is a portion of what will be needed (IMHO), and thus just a temporary merger financial bandaid.

Converting those funds saved the association a little money & time. That's all.

CB

 

[JetMonkey]

I'm in phl and voted yes

You're not part of the angry FO club...

 

[cbrown1]

You're not part of the angry FO club...

can you elaborate on what that is?

 

[LaGarbage Man]

can you elaborate on what that is?

If your familiar with the show The Big Bang Theory then you will understand when I quote, "NOOOOOOO WHY DID YOU HAVE TO ASK HIM THAT !!!!!!" Now prepare yourself for at least two pages of yet another East/West Poo Flinging Festival. It's OK we all make mistakes. ;-)

 

[JetMonkey]

By now, I wish there was a Wikipedia about it. I just don't have the strength anymore..

 

[doh]

By now, I wish there was a Wikipedia about it. I just don't have the strength anymore..

Some days you just wish you didn't speak jive!

 

[Bringupthebird]

USAPA is in "the black" general funding-wise, but we have ZERO money in the bank tagged for Merger Funds.

Who approved the budget for unlimited legal expenses? Who will be held accountable for failing to prepare for a merger that has been on the horizon for many years? Why isn't USAPA forced to curb it's legal appetite and live within it's means? When will they provide a detailed accounting of where the money went and who approved it?

 

[LearLove]

This.

Color me surprised.

Me too. Maybe the company got Dale Jr. to call CLT guys and recommend a yes vote and in return he'd serve up fried okra under B16.

 

[Tweaker]

Well, I am nominally optimistic that this joint decision will be a largely positive thing for the Eastholes, Westicles and us Turd listers alike. We won't know for years.

I am healthily pessimistic as I have come to believe that, while you only live once, you live with weak and impotent contract language for 10 years at a go or 25% of your flying career per CBA document.

I have seen enough intentionally vague, weak, and open ended verbiage in this MOU that I don't think it is unlikely that our benevolent management at some point balls up a fist and makes a run at perforating our collective colonic linings.


Some bumper sticker grade wisdom:

Should I trust the goverment?
Ask a Native American!



Should I trust the APA?
Ask a TWA pilot! (Thousands Without Aircraft)

I will simply put on some soft music and hope that any involuntary sexual activity is at least minimally pleasurable and a tiny bit tender.