USAirways

[PGTB]

So whats it like working at USAirways these days? Hows reserve, line holding time. Are you better of to stay at a regional or go..all that good stuff that doesnt seem to be current on here.

 

[The Drizzle]

The good:

It's been excellent for me so far. I've only been here ~6 months but reserve has been a breeze on the bus in DCA. I'm holding long-call for the moment, can do that from home and fly only sporadically. I can't give you any estimation of block holding as the last bid had the exact same number come into base as had departed senior to me. I walked away from 16 or so commutable days off in the left seat of a large RJ and don't regret it one bit. The crews are excellent and scheduling is far more professional than I had ever experienced at the regional level. I genuinely look forward to working for the first time in 5-6 years. I have had a blast with all but one captain so far, even then it wasn't a bad experience just not a blast like everybody else.

The bad:
The pay, but you knew that.
Sitting on the sidelines as a third party to the world's largest sissy slap-fight.
Not getting to vote on the MOU on probation.
Crash-pad living when I have to use it, but that's everywhere.

If you live in one of their bases or reasonable driving distance AND like gambling, this should be a place to try for.

 

[jc3]

The good:

It's been excellent for me so far. I've only been here ~6 months but reserve has been a breeze on the bus in DCA. I'm holding long-call for the moment, can do that from home and fly only sporadically. I can't give you any estimation of block holding as the last bid had the exact same number come into base as had departed senior to me. I walked away from 16 or so commutable days off in the left seat of a large RJ and don't regret it one bit. The crews are excellent and scheduling is far more professional than I had ever experienced at the regional level. I genuinely look forward to working for the first time in 5-6 years. I have had a blast with all but one captain so far, even then it wasn't a bad experience just not a blast like everybody else.

The bad:
The pay, but you knew that.
Sitting on the sidelines as a third party to the world's largest sissy slap-fight.
Not getting to vote on the MOU on probation.
Crash-pad living when I have to use it, but that's everywhere.

If you live in one of their bases or reasonable driving distance AND like gambling, this should be a place to try for.

Agree with everything above. Also the training was great. Way better then anything I ever experienced at my regional. Hopefully the pay and "slap-fight" get fixed with a merger. Anybody know when the current NDA expires?

 

[The Drizzle]

Agree with everything above. Also the training was great. Way better then anything I ever experienced at my regional. Hopefully the pay and "slap-fight" get fixed with a merger. Anybody know when the current NDA expires?

Yes, I forgot that. Aircraft specific training in CLT was excellent.

 

[buxflyr]

Quick question on the pay. Does someone have a link to the payscale that will be implemented should the MOU receive a "Yes" and the merger is a go? Also, what is the effective date of said payscale?

Thanks!

 

[The Drizzle]

Quick question on the pay. Does someone have a link to the payscale that will be implemented should the MOU receive a "Yes" and the merger is a go? Also, what is the effective date of said payscale?

Thanks!

Just look up the new AA bankruptcy rates, effective with the announcement of a merger.

For the lazy: http://www.willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot-salary/87/American-Airlines.html

 

[Flying Horses]

New MOU American/US Airways Pay Rates

Equipment Group (Band) I With the exception of aircraft identified in Groups II through V below, any aircraft configured (i.e. as operated by American Airlines) with greater than seventy-six (76) seats and less than one-hundred-eighteen (118) seats, including E190/195, CRJ-1000, MRJ-100, and Bombardier CS100.
Equipment Group (Band) II Bombardier CS300, A319, A319neo, B737-700,
B737 7MAX, MD80, B737-800, B737-8MAX, B737-900, B737-9MAX, A320, A320neo, A321, A321neo
Equipment Group (Band) III B757, B767-200, B767-300, A300
Equipment Group (Band) IV B767-400, B777-200, B777-200ER, B777-200LR,
B777-300, B777-300ER, B787-8, B787-9, B787-10, A332, A333, A340, A350
Equipment Group (Band) V A380, B747 (all variants)


FIRST OFFICER HOURLY RATES (4% RAISE) EFFECTIVE DATE
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $103.45 $98.52 $83.60 $77.55 $52.73
3 $125.14 $119.18 $101.14 $93.82 $63.79
4 $128.25 $122.15 $103.65 $96.15 $65.38
5 $131.39 $125.14 $106.19 $98.50 $66.98
6 $134.57 $128.16 $108.75 $100.88 $68.60
7 $137.78 $131.22 $111.35 $103.29 $70.24
8 $141.02 $134.31 $113.97 $105.72 $71.89
9 $145.39 $138.47 $117.50 $109.00 $74.12
10 $148.71 $141.63 $120.18 $111.49 $75.81
11 $150.95 $143.77 $121.99 $113.17 $76.95
12 $152.10 $144.85 $122.92 $114.02 $77.53


CAPTAIN HOURLY RATES (4% RAISE) EFFECTIVE DATE
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $206.89 $197.04 $167.20 $155.10 $105.47
3 $208.57 $198.64 $168.56 $156.36 $106.32
4 $210.25 $200.24 $169.91 $157.62 $107.18
5 $211.93 $201.84 $171.27 $158.88 $108.03
6 $213.60 $203.43 $172.63 $160.13 $108.89
7 $215.28 $205.03 $173.98 $161.39 $109.74
8 $216.96 $206.63 $175.34 $162.65 $110.60
9 $218.64 $208.23 $176.69 $163.91 $111.45
10 $220.31 $209.82 $178.05 $165.16 $112.31
11 $221.99 $211.42 $179.40 $166.42 $113.16
12 $223.67 $213.02 $180.76 $167.68 $114.02


FIRST OFFICER HOURLY RATES (8% RAISE) 2014
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $111.72 $106.40 $90.29 $83.76 $56.95
3 $135.15 $128.72 $109.23 $101.32 $68.90
4 $138.51 $131.92 $111.94 $103.84 $70.61
5 $141.91 $135.15 $114.68 $106.38 $72.34
6 $145.34 $138.42 $117.45 $108.96 $74.09
7 $148.80 $141.72 $120.26 $111.55 $75.86
8 $152.31 $145.05 $123.09 $114.18 $77.64
9 $157.03 $149.55 $126.90 $117.72 $80.05
10 $160.61 $152.96 $129.80 $120.41 $81.87
11 $163.03 $155.27 $131.75 $122.22 $83.11
12 $164.26 $156.44 $132.75 $123.14 $83.74


CAPTAIN HOURLY RATES (8% RAISE) 2014
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $223.45 $212.81 $180.58 $167.51 $113.91
3 $225.26 $214.53 $182.04 $168.87 $114.83
4 $227.07 $216.26 $183.51 $170.23 $115.75
5 $228.88 $217.98 $184.97 $171.59 $116.68
6 $230.69 $219.71 $186.44 $172.95 $117.60
7 $232.50 $221.43 $187.90 $174.30 $118.52
8 $234.32 $223.16 $189.36 $175.66 $119.45
9 $236.13 $224.89 $190.83 $177.02 $120.37
10 $237.94 $226.61 $192.29 $178.38 $121.29
11 $239.75 $228.34 $193.76 $179.74 $122.22
12 $241.56 $230.06 $195.22 $181.09 $123.14


FIRST OFFICER HOURLY RATES (3% RAISE) 2015
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $115.07 $109.60 $93.00 $86.27 $58.66
3 $139.21 $132.58 $112.50 $104.36 $70.96
4 $142.67 $135.87 $115.30 $106.95 $72.73
5 $146.16 $139.20 $118.12 $109.58 $74.51
6 $149.70 $142.57 $120.98 $112.22 $76.31
7 $153.27 $145.97 $123.86 $114.90 $78.13
8 $156.88 $149.41 $126.78 $117.61 $79.97
9 $161.74 $154.04 $130.71 $121.25 $82.45
10 $165.43 $157.55 $133.69 $124.02 $84.33
11 $167.92 $159.93 $135.71 $125.89 $85.60
12 $169.19 $161.14 $136.73 $126.84 $86.25


CAPTAIN HOURLY RATES (3% RAISE) 2015
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $230.15 $219.19 $186.00 $172.54 $117.32
3 $232.02 $220.97 $187.50 $173.94 $118.27
4 $233.88 $222.75 $189.01 $175.34 $119.23
5 $235.75 $224.52 $190.52 $176.73 $120.18
6 $237.61 $226.30 $192.03 $178.13 $121.13
7 $239.48 $228.08 $193.54 $179.53 $122.08
8 $241.35 $229.85 $195.05 $180.93 $123.03
9 $243.21 $231.63 $196.55 $182.33 $123.98
10 $245.08 $233.41 $198.06 $183.73 $124.93
11 $246.94 $235.19 $199.57 $185.13 $125.88
12 $248.81 $236.96 $201.08 $186.53 $126.84


FIRST OFFICER HOURLY RATES (16.5% RAISE) 2016 - PARITY REVIEW
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $134.02 $127.64 $108.31 $100.47 $68.32
3 $162.13 $154.41 $131.03 $121.55 $82.65
4 $166.16 $158.25 $134.28 $124.57 $84.70
5 $170.23 $162.12 $137.57 $127.62 $86.78
6 $174.35 $166.04 $140.90 $130.70 $88.88
7 $178.50 $170.00 $144.26 $133.82 $91.00
8 $182.71 $174.01 $147.65 $136.97 $93.14
9 $188.37 $179.40 $152.23 $141.21 $96.02
10 $192.67 $183.49 $155.70 $144.44 $98.22
11 $195.57 $186.26 $158.05 $146.62 $99.70
12 $197.05 $187.67 $159.25 $147.72 $100.45


CAPTAIN HOURLY RATES (16.5% RAISE) 2016 - PARITY REVIEW
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $268.05 $255.28 $216.62 $200.95 $136.64
3 $270.22 $257.35 $218.38 $202.58 $137.75
4 $272.39 $259.42 $220.13 $204.21 $138.86
5 $274.57 $261.49 $221.89 $205.83 $139.96
6 $276.74 $263.56 $223.65 $207.46 $141.07
7 $278.91 $265.63 $225.40 $209.09 $142.18
8 $281.09 $267.70 $227.16 $210.72 $143.29
9 $283.26 $269.77 $228.92 $212.35 $144.40
10 $285.43 $271.84 $230.67 $213.98 $145.50
11 $287.61 $273.91 $232.43 $215.61 $146.61
12 $289.78 $275.98 $234.19 $217.24 $147.72


FIRST OFFICER HOURLY RATES (3.5% RAISE) 2017
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $138.71 $132.11 $112.10 $103.99 $70.71
3 $167.81 $159.82 $135.61 $125.80 $85.54
4 $171.97 $163.79 $138.98 $128.93 $87.67
5 $176.19 $167.80 $142.39 $132.08 $89.82
6 $180.45 $171.86 $145.83 $135.28 $91.99
7 $184.75 $175.95 $149.31 $138.50 $94.18
8 $189.10 $180.10 $152.82 $141.76 $96.40
9 $194.96 $185.68 $157.56 $146.16 $99.38
10 $199.41 $189.91 $161.15 $149.49 $101.65


CAPTAIN HOURLY RATES (3.5% RAISE) 2017
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $277.43 $264.22 $224.20 $207.98 $141.42
3 $279.68 $266.36 $226.02 $209.67 $142.57
4 $281.93 $268.50 $227.84 $211.35 $143.72
5 $284.17 $270.64 $229.66 $213.04 $144.86
6 $286.42 $272.79 $231.48 $214.73 $146.01
7 $288.67 $274.93 $233.29 $216.41 $147.16
8 $290.92 $277.07 $235.11 $218.10 $148.30
9 $293.17 $279.21 $236.93 $219.78 $149.45
10 $295.42 $281.36 $238.75 $221.47 $150.60
11 $297.67 $283.50 $240.56 $223.16 $151.74
12 $299.92 $285.64 $242.38 $224.84 $152.89


FIRST OFFICER HOURLY RATES (3.5% RAISE) 2018
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $143.57 $136.73 $116.03 $107.63 $73.19
3 $173.68 $165.41 $140.36 $130.20 $88.54
4 $177.99 $169.52 $143.85 $133.44 $90.74
5 $182.36 $173.67 $147.37 $136.71 $92.96
6 $186.76 $177.87 $150.93 $140.01 $95.21
7 $191.22 $182.11 $154.53 $143.35 $97.48
8 $195.72 $186.40 $158.17 $146.73 $99.77
9 $201.78 $192.18 $163.07 $151.27 $102.86
10 $206.39 $196.56 $166.79 $154.73 $105.21
11 $209.50 $199.53 $169.31 $157.06 $106.80
12 $211.08 $201.03 $170.59 $158.24 $107.60


CAPTAIN HOURLY RATES (3.5% RAISE) 2018
Year Group 5 Group 4 Group 3 Group 2 Group 1
2 $287.14 $273.46 $232.05 $215.26 $146.37
3 $289.46 $275.68 $233.93 $217.00 $147.56
4 $291.79 $277.90 $235.81 $218.75 $148.75
5 $294.12 $280.12 $237.70 $220.50 $149.93
6 $296.45 $282.33 $239.58 $222.24 $151.12
7 $298.78 $284.55 $241.46 $223.99 $152.31
8 $301.11 $286.77 $243.34 $225.73 $153.49
9 $303.43 $288.99 $245.22 $227.48 $154.68
10 $305.76 $291.20 $247.10 $229.22 $155.87
11 $308.09 $293.42 $248.98 $230.97 $157.05
12 $310.42 $295.64 $250.87 $232.71 $158.24

 

[Flying Horses]

Just look up the new AA bankruptcy rates, effective with the announcement of a merger.

For the lazy: http://www.willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot-salary/87/American-Airlines.html

That is not quite correct. Those new AA bankruptcy rates that are posted on Will Fly for Food that you referred to are the rates at AA that are currently in effect after they agreed to their TA in December. (In the event of no merger, these will continue to be their rates as a standalone carrier.)

The rates I just posted will be the new rates for both AA and US Airways pilots in the event of a merger. They are officially effective on the day of of the Plan of Reorganization, however these rates will be retroactively paid out to the day of signing of the MOU. (which in US Airways's case will be on Feb 8, 2013 - if the pilots vote to approve this MOU)

 

[LearLove]

for guys getting hired at AAA, if the MOU is passed and becomes effective upon a merger newhire pay will be 40/hr for the 190 and 3000/month for group 2 (737 and AB).

40X72 (long call) = 2880
40X76 (short call) = 3040

the 40/hr is less than the current 190 year 1 pay of 42 and change. If the MOU becomes effective and retro kicks in I wonder if the company will come after the guys on year 1 190 pay for the 2 buck/hour retro back.

 

[PGTB]

Speaking of 190, how is life on that airplane? How much quicker do you get long call/ and a line? is there a constant flow of people who leave the airplane once the 1st year is up? Is it possible to get stuck on that airplane?