USAirways Transformation Slide Show

[InclusiveScope]

Here is the slide show that USAirways management gave to ALPA:

http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=150782

 

[JerkyBoy]

BFD - too little too late. Not going to work. Wish it would but the mentality at my former employer is such that the pilots will ride this one into the ground than admit they are a LCC.

 

[vc10]

US Airways as as "America East Airlines" (vs America West) might actually work. But, as you point out, everyone (and specifically the pilots) would have to swallow hard and admit they worked for something other than a traditional major airline.

Still, especially the pilots have little choice. A 50-year old pilot at US Airways is screwed to the wall if the company goes down. This presentation is directed at senior pilots---note how it seeks to preserve senior pilot earnings at the expense of additional furloughs.

 

[AlbieF15]

I'm not anti-ALPA...heck, I'm a proud member. However, your point about "take care of the senior captains" is spot on. ALPA is still an organization that needs money to be effective, and one senior captains dues goes a lot farther than a bunch of junior new hires. A good MEC has a strong block rep that brings the junior guys issues to the tables, even so making everyone happy is tough. That, however, is a product of a seniority based system.

It is ironic to me that some folks bemoan the work rules at the LCCs, while others at the LCCs sing about how great it is there. Somewhere in the mix there must be something in the culture at the LCCs that has everyone so satisfied with their jobs. I'd love to hear from those folks who've done both... Skirt, DLRedline, and others...WHY are you so happy with your current situation? What makes working so "efficiently" also so much "fun"?

 

[vc10]

Just a guess: most pilots are pilots because they love to fly. Working efficiently means spending more time in the sky (presumably where a pilot is happiest) and less time being jerked around on the ground. Following the airplane the whole day (like the LUV pilots do) also means fewer things to go wrong because you're not jumping from airplane to airplane.

 

[Dizel8]

"However, for the senior pilots remaining."

There you have it!

 

[sgu]

true

US Airways as as "America East Airlines" (vs America West) might actually work. But, as you point out, everyone (and specifically the pilots) would have to swallow hard and admit they worked for something other than a traditional major airline.

Still, especially the pilots have little choice. A 50-year old pilot at US Airways is screwed to the wall if the company goes down. This presentation is directed at senior pilots---note how it seeks to preserve senior pilot earnings at the expense of additional furloughs.

It is USAir's last shot at survival. I hate to say it but it is a plan and I would like to see if someone else has a better one. Good luck to all at USair!

 

[BRA]

which is it gonna be. fly 90-100 seat aircraft at regional rates, or fly them at the rate jetblue is gonna have for the 190? They compared mesa flying 90 seaters for america west and jetblue flying the 190. I think this is very critical to the future of pay for all of us. They want to be like jetblue so bad....they should pay the furloughs a decent rate to fly those 190s....not $36 an hour for the FO, and $58 for the captain. I would assume jetblue will top those numbers.

 

[dlredline]

I'm not anti-ALPA...heck, I'm a proud member. However, your point about "take care of the senior captains" is spot on. ALPA is still an organization that needs money to be effective, and one senior captains dues goes a lot farther than a bunch of junior new hires. A good MEC has a strong block rep that brings the junior guys issues to the tables, even so making everyone happy is tough. That, however, is a product of a seniority based system. . .

Excellent point, Albie. ALPA National has always been financially motivated while keeping a blind eye to morally (case in point: it's strong play to get Continental pilots represented, while looking past those at CAL who crossed a picket line). But at USAirways, it's always been an "eat your young" mentality. The top 10-15% will continue to have deference, while the junior pilot (mind you, junior at U is over 17 years seniority) continues to get hosed. The U MEC will continue to give away the farm in an effort to maintain their dwindling position, to the exclusion (politically and professionally) of those at the bottom of the list. In my opinion, it's useless anymore, the final U song to be sung perhaps as early as this Fall.

After 15 years of putting up with this "I got mine" attitude, it's actually refreshing to be viewed as a relative equal within my current pilot group. While I miss the one true benefit of ALPA, namely their unbelievably professional safety organization, the rest of the politcally disfunctional mess I can do without, thank you.

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