USAir's Plans Shift

[hockeypilot44]

I care because East management used Pension Termination as means of saving an airline which is now industry practice. If you can't connect the dots than I apologize.

Pawn the chairs, smoke detectors, uniforms, and tugs, but dont play bingo with guys retirements.

If all things were equal they would have been shut down after 9/11 and then perhaps the DAL guys would still have their retirements.

East management illegally terminated a pension that was more than 80 percent funded. They blatantly stole and hid money from the pilots' pension. As this was going on, the Delta pilots and all of the other ALPA brethren laughed at the US Airways' pilots because it was not them. The pilot pension did not save US Airways. Had ALPA shut down all of the airlines when the US Airways' pilot pension was threatened, US Airways would still be here as well as everyone's pensions. The money from the pension went to TPG, not to the airline. We are dumb f*cking pilots who are abused by management. Don't kid yourself thinking differently.

 

[BeCareful!]

East management illegally terminated a pension that was more than 80 percent funded. They blatantly stole and hid money from the pilots' pension. As this was going on, the Delta pilots and all of the other ALPA brethren laughed at the US Airways' pilots because it was not them. The pilot pension did not save US Airways. Had ALPA shut down all of the airlines when the US Airways' pilot pension was threatened, US Airways would still be here as well as everyone's pensions. The money from the pension went to TPG, not to the airline. We are dumb f*cking pilots who are abused by management. Don't kid yourself thinking differently.

Well said, thank you.

 

[reepicheep]

Remember it was USAirways' ALPA leadership that voted, without membership ratification (which admittedly was not required) to terminate the pension. Management didn't have to steal it; it was handed to them.

But I agree with the gist of your post. Should have shut 'er down then and there. Why any US Airways plane moved the next day is beyond me.

 

[Carl S.]

Should SoCal also be shunned due to military airspace to the east and north? White Sands is 200-300nm. to the east of PHX and affects the arrivals as much as the airspace by the big bend in FL when headed to southern FL. It may cause channeling of A/C, but not complete lockdown.

P.S.- no extended downwinds at TPA due to MacDill.

 

[OurMoney1]

Either way is was put before the union by managers who sold the pilot group out. The very people whose retirements are still intact and fat.

I am sympathetic to my fellows and feel for the good of the industry it would have been better to scuttle the ship rather than allow this to be played out.

Boxes or people we are aviators who should stick together. This type of assault on our livlihood can not be tolerated, and unfortunately it was.