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US to treat all public as terrorist!!!

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Hubie

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There is little argument that airline management is inept at best and has been hurting the airlines more than helping them, but the loss of revenue by the airlines is real and is growing everyday because the traveling public, both vacationing families as well as the airlines bread-n-butter passengers the last minute first class pax or the business traveler is finding more and more reasons not to fly the friendly skies.

Mainly, because they are not so friendly anymore…

Now Delta, at the urging of our beloved federal guberment is going to start data mining on ALL passengers, this to include checking your credit and having a “Threat Assessment ID Number” assigned to ALL.
When will this end?
When will the people of this country turn off WWF or NASCAR and put down the remote long enough to demand that our government address the real threat!

Stop immigration from terrorist countries, countries that are believed to host terrorist and countries openly hostile to the USA. Round up ALL illegal aliens in this country and send them packing or jail them, which one I don’t care!

Start treating our enemies like they are our enemies and stop this PC BS that will be the end of us all!
The traveling American public is not the enemy; it is Middle Eastern males between the ages of 18 and 45!!!



By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer

Federal aviation authorities and technology companies will soon begin
testing a vast air security screening system designed to instantly
pull together every passenger's travel history and living
arrangements, plus a wealth of other personal and demographic
information.


The government's plan is to establish a computer network linking every
reservation system in the United States to private and government
databases. The network would use data-mining and predictive software
to profile passenger activity and intuit obscure clues about potential
threats, even before the scheduled day of flight.

It might find, for instance, by checking a passengers credit history that one man used a debit card to buy tickets for four other men who sit in separate parts of the same plane
-- four men who have shared addresses in the past. Or it might discern an array of unusual links and travel habits among passengers on different flights.

Those sorts of details -- along with many other far more subtle
patterns identified by computer programs -- would contribute to a
threat index or score for every passenger.
Passengers with higher
scores would be singled out for additional screening or possible detention by authorities.

As described by developers, the system would be an unobtrusive network enabling authorities to target potential threats far more effectively
while reducing lines at security checkpoints for most passengers.

Critics say it would be one of the largest monitoring systems ever
created by the government and a huge intrusion on privacy.
Although such a system would rely on existing software and technology,
it could be years before it is fully in place, given that enormous
amounts of data would need to be integrated and a structure would need
to be established for monitoring passenger profiles.
At least one carrier, Delta Air Lines, has been working with several
companies on a prototype. Northwest Airlines has acknowledged that it
is talking with other airlines about a similar screening system.
Federal authorities hope to test at least two prototypes in coming
months or possibly sooner, according to government and industry
sources familiar with the effort.

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Stop immigration from terrorist countries, countries that are believed to host terrorist and countries openly hostile to the USA.

Round up ALL illegal aliens in this country and send them packing or jail them, which one I don’t care!

While this is an extraordinary intrusion into the level of privacy that we have come to accept, never mind that the IRS has known ALL of this information about us for several decades, this sounds like one method wherby we might accomplish the purpose you have outlined above. Not only does it identify who MIGHT be likely to undertake a terrorist operation on board an aircraft, but it may also identify a terrorist who is travelling to another location to meet, plot or undertake a terror opertaion there.

I recall the Dutch family that sheltered the Frank family, and their daughter, Anne, during WWII. They took extraordinary risk, and endured a suppression of their rights in order to ensure the survival of their friends under Nazi oppression. When war and terror are brought to your door, you rise to the occaision with vigor and strength (unless you are Vichy France, of course) in order to survive.

We can debate all day whether this is consistent with our Amercan values of freedom and personal privacy. Certainly, it is a departure from what we have enjoyed.

Is it too much? Or can we risk measures which will be later judged to be too little?

We shall see.
 
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Look at El Al. While I don't work for them (which, therefore, some on this board would say that I am not qualified to say anything about them) I believe they place people in groups within the aircraft. All single females here, all arab fundamentalists there...etc, etc.

Could you imagine it here? Two businesspeople together. One is a man/the other a woman. No sorry you must sit here and she has to sit up front.

The fact that this nation cannot lock down its borders is a crime.

Too bad. The horse has left the barn and now we decide to close the door. The wackos (both foreign and domestic) have moved on. They may wait 10 years before they strike again. But they will use another vehicle. All in the name of Allah. Didn't we get rid of this stupidity in the Middle Ages?
 
I like middle eastern cousine, and pay for my ratings with a credit card...just wait till TSA sees my credit card history...looks like I am never flying again (121, that is :D )
 
That's a good question.

Do you think the TSA knows the difference between hummus and hamas?
 
I have no problem with profiling. It's far more efficient than the current shotgun random searching. We will see less old ladies being harassed and more risky individuals.
If the TSA wants to put this in place, that's fine, but they should give us something in return like removing the "continuous random searches" requirement and step down the checkpoints somewhat as these won't be so necessary anymore.
 
I'm glad to see you know who He is....:D

Frankly, that choice you mention makes no sense, since life is never that simple. If only it was.

But it isn't.
 
Big Brother...

My thread "paranoid" didn't get a lot of response....perhaps the title was not that interesting. I find it pretty appaling that we are faced with no privacy whatsoever, and even more disturbing is the fact that no one seems to care! Only time will tell if we become a "Matrix" society.

Check out this web site for more info.

http://www.aclu.org/Privacy/Privacy.cfm?ID=11910&c=130

We need stronger coffee.....

Finch.
 

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