US Airways New Hire Class 1/7/08

[avratdwc]

Hey all, Happy Holidays!!!

I am looking at submitting my resume at US Airways. I have been a corporate guy my whole career. Will this be a negative, or does it not matter. My reason for looking at US Airways is the opportunity to move back up to the northeast. Presently in FL. Is BOS a hard base to get? Is commuting difficult while on reserve? Any insight would be appreciated. I am planning on sending in my package after my wedding in February.

Thanks,

Avrat

 

[mokitty]

Hey all, Happy Holidays!!!

I am planning on sending in my package after my wedding in February.

Thanks,

Avrat

Getting married in Feb., and sending away your package? You might need that, at least for a little while

 

[m80drvr]

Getting married in Feb., and sending away your package? You might need that, at least for a little while

Actually a week or so after the wedding he will no longer need his package.

 

[i'mbatman]

Hey E-man must be nice to know that if US lasts for your career, you'll probably spend the last approx 5 yrs as numero uno!

 

[PHXFLYR]

Buckle up, new hires (like myself). It is going to be a wild ride at US Airways for a long while! I'm still excited though.

If you newbies were smart, you would keep whatever resumes you have circulating with other airlines out there updated and active. Unless,of course, you thrive on nonstop turmoil..... Good luck just the same,though.

PHXFLYR

 

[Turtle21]

Hey all, Happy Holidays!!!

I am looking at submitting my resume at US Airways. I have been a corporate guy my whole career. Will this be a negative, or does it not matter. My reason for looking at US Airways is the opportunity to move back up to the northeast. Presently in FL. Is BOS a hard base to get? Is commuting difficult while on reserve? Any insight would be appreciated. I am planning on sending in my package after my wedding in February.

Thanks,

Avrat

Boston is a little senior, but not as much as CLT. Boston is also not a very large crew base. Commuting sucks. Go with Netjets if you want a good commute policy!

Good luck!

 

[JetMonkey]

Actually a week or so after the wedding he will no longer need his package.

That was a good one. :laugh:

 

[avratdwc]

I had a flash in my eyes as I hit submit that what I wrote was going to be fodder for a field day. Hey, its all good!!!!

 

[E-Man]

Just received Fedex-assigned PHL E190.....

Hey PHX, it's better than the RJ roller coaster! 50-seaters are on the way out- the golden ride at CHQ et.al. will be halting within a few years.

Nonetheless, I'm putting my seat belt on........

 

[Saabslime]

To everyone recently hired or thinking about coming here, I'd make sure you keep plan B on the nightstand. I'm sure management painted a real rosy picture for you during indoc as they all do but do your homework and talk to the front line people (not just pilots). This place is going nowhere but downhill fast and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. We're already forecasting losses and the only way management here knows how to fix the balance sheet is by cutting personnel. The moral sucks and if you get assigned to the east operation you'll be working under THE worst set of workrules and pay in the industry. Still sound like "fun" and a step up? I know getting hired anywhere in this industry is a gamble but in my opinion this place would be a very poorly placed bet.

 

[dirkdigler]

So, what would be your bet???

To everyone recently hired or thinking about coming here, I'd make sure you keep plan B on the nightstand. I'm sure management painted a real rosy picture for you during indoc as they all do but do your homework and talk to the front line people (not just pilots). This place is going nowhere but downhill fast and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. We're already forecasting losses and the only way management here knows how to fix the balance sheet is by cutting personnel. The moral sucks and if you get assigned to the east operation you'll be working under THE worst set of workrules and pay in the industry. Still sound like "fun" and a step up? I know getting hired anywhere in this industry is a gamble but in my opinion this place would be a very poorly placed bet.

We have heard a lot about pros and cons about every airlines on this site.

So, let me take this opportunity to ask you a question for you all to ponder.

A lot of us have been in this business for a long time. And, because of the nature of the rigid seniority system we all signed up for, it is rather important for us not only to consider not only what's happening now but also , to the best of our abiliy, to try to think about 10 years, 20years in the future.

Based on your homework, could you shed some light on which airline you would bet on and why? Please try to be as specific as possible. (For example, management, their long term strategy, current and long term economic condition, politics (domestic and international), the nature of the current airline market and how you think it would change in the future, etc., etc.,)

Thanks in advance!

 

[E-Man]

To everyone recently hired or thinking about coming here, I'd make sure you keep plan B on the nightstand. I'm sure management painted a real rosy picture for you during indoc as they all do but do your homework and talk to the front line people (not just pilots). This place is going nowhere but downhill fast and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. We're already forecasting losses and the only way management here knows how to fix the balance sheet is by cutting personnel. The moral sucks and if you get assigned to the east operation you'll be working under THE worst set of workrules and pay in the industry. Still sound like "fun" and a step up? I know getting hired anywhere in this industry is a gamble but in my opinion this place would be a very poorly placed bet.

I'm very aware of the not-so rosy picture....

Who's NOT forecasting losses/softer profits besides FDX and UPS-who are ceasing hiring with age 65????

My pay and work rules at CHQ are worse than Airways...

For me at least, it's still a step up.......

Any jump to mainline is a gamble....

I appreciate your insight, but it hasn't scared me yet. It's all about perspective and right now I have the chance for a much better future at Airways than CHQ. It's a gamble, but for me it's a well-calculated, educated risk.

If I was 10-15 years older, with a family, I'd think twice. But I'm not.... For me, this is a no-brainer of a choice.

Again, it's all about personal perspective and where you're coming from.....

 

[cactusboy53]

New hires, welcome aboard!! We'll see you in PHX during indoc!

 

[vetrider]

Based on your homework, could you shed some light on which airline you would bet on and why? Please try to be as specific as possible. (For example, management, their long term strategy, current and long term economic condition, politics (domestic and international), the nature of the current airline market and how you think it would change in the future, etc., etc.,)

Thanks in advance![/quote]

The armchair analysts are gonna come out in force now. Ah, it'll be worth a chuckle anyway.

 

[MJ42]

Based on your homework, could you shed some light on which airline you would bet on and why? Please try to be as specific as possible. (For example, management, their long term strategy, current and long term economic condition, politics (domestic and international), the nature of the current airline market and how you think it would change in the future, etc., etc.,)

Thanks in advance![/quote]

1) Fed Ex and UPS-obvious
2)DAL or CAL- look strong for now but you will be in the right seat forever(at least it will be a heavy most likely). Both have a strong international route structure.
3)SWA- never furloughed a pilot, good income potential. Cons-737 for life, not hiring right now, younger pilot group, pay for the type.
4)NWA- gamble, but who isn't...oldest pilot group and least effected by age 65. Strong in Asian markets with lots of potential w/787 out of MEM- Asian Auto markets. Pay will probably get better w/new contract in 09(hopefully).
5) AirTran-stable but if you are going to fly a 737 for life then why not SWA w/better pay? Cons-contract issues, young pilot group.
6)United, US Airways-very risky. UA poor management(most are bad but UA seems to be worst). US Airways-could go either way but looks like east pilots are at their final breaking point. 190 Pay rates suck. Missed window to negiotiate reasonable payrates.
7)American-not hiring so I don't know what will happen.

This is just my opinion but maybe most will agree???