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Report: US Airways discussing merger with United
Wednesday, April 16, 2008
By Dan Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
US Airways and United Airlines are discussing a potential merger, according to a report this morning in The Wall Street Journal.
US Airways Chief Executive Officer Doug Parker, in a message to employees today, did not confirm or deny the Journal report or a separate Dallas Morning News article suggesting "we might make a good merger partner" for American Airlines, saying he could not comment on "any specific discussions or transaction." But he also reiterated his support for further consolidation among U.S. airlines.
"Rest assured, if US Airways chooses to participate in any industry consolidation, we will do so because we believe it is in the best interests of our employees and our airline," he said.
The speculation about a US Airways-United hook-up comes just a day after Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines and Minneapolis-based Northwest Airlines Corp. unveiled their proposed union and promised to create the world's largest airline. There also is new speculation about a United-Continental Airlines Inc. union. Yesterday, the chief executive officer of Houston-based Continental said the company would review its "strategic alternatives."
United and US Airways have discussed a tie-up before. In 2000, the U.S. Justice Department nixed a proposed merger on antitrust grounds. Later, when David Siegel was CEO of US Airways, the carrier considered a takeover of United after emerging from its first bankruptcy as a way of remaining competitive. The option was code-named "Project Minnow," with US Airways as the small fish gobbling the bigger one. In the end, US Airways decided to merge with Tempe, Ariz.-based America West Airlines.
Last year, US Airways attempted an unsuccessful takeover bid for Delta.
A US Airways-United combination is considered a "more remote possibility" when compared to the prospect of United-Continental, according to the Journal. However, United and US Airways have been talking for "over a month," according to the newspaper, with proposed cost savings that "could be at least as attractive as synergies in a United-Continental linkup" and potentially higher than the $1 billion Northwest and Delta expect to save as part of their merger.
Mr. Parker, in his message to employees, argued that "we can't ignore what's happening in the world around us. Oil has risen to over $113 per barrel and Wall Street is anticipating a recession that, if it happens, will lower all airline revenues." The Delta-Northwest combination "potentially creates a formidable competitor. In that world, all airlines are going to have to make dramatic changes to their existing business models in order to be viable."
"Whatever we do, we will always take great care to ensure the path we choose returns value to our shareholders and customers, and also provdies long-term stability for our employees."
US Airways still employs about 2,000 people in the Pittsburgh area, down from about 12,000 before 9/11, and remains the largest carrier at Pittsburgh International Airport.
 
Here ya go Dougie, send the east to UAL, merge the west with NK and run a good airline. We'd love to have the west guys.
 
So what would be a better merger, US Airways and United or Continental and United? It looks like all three are talking in some form.
 
I for one would welcome a merger w/ just about anybody - it simply can't be any worse than we (awa) currently sit.

After the AAA merger, we could really use an injection of common sense into this gene pool.
 
No offense to Grog, but run away United. I'd make management think twice about getting them into that mess.

There is always the possibility that UAL/CO may be too big for regulatory approval and they're looking to offload a bit as part of their deal.
 
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AWA was a great airline. USAir wrecked that. I too would feel bad for United, but money talks.

Somethings up for sure, my sources say we'll know next week.
 
The thing United has going for it is its size. If they get a unified employee group against any deal they don't like, it's got a good chance of not happening.
 
My sources say April 25th is the announcement... No Joke. We'll see how good my sources are.

The CAL ALPA MEC has scheduled a special MEC meeting for the 24th to get a briefing from CAL execs as to what they are planning.

Coincedence?
 
The CAL ALPA MEC has scheduled a special MEC meeting for the 24th to get a briefing from CAL execs as to what they are planning.

Coincedence?

I hope that USair and United merge. I want nothing to do with that boat anchor called United. Let us go it on our own with option "Z". We'd have to expand like crazy but it would be on our terms. We wouldn't have to deal with shedding dead weight from merging with a bloated whale corpse.
 
I hope that USair and United merge. I want nothing to do with that boat anchor called United. Let us go it on our own with option "Z". We'd have to expand like crazy but it would be on our terms. We wouldn't have to deal with shedding dead weight from merging with a bloated whale corpse.

When you say "we" just who are you referring to?
 
Let us go it on our own with option "Z". We'd have to expand like crazy but it would be on our terms. We wouldn't have to deal with shedding dead weight from merging with a bloated whale corpse.

Expand like crazy....lol... is the last thing you want to do in this environment.
 
Expanding international widebody flying is crazy...? One large order of "Crazy" please!

CAL's current fleet of 777s is 20. They have 8 additional 777s on order, the first two are scheduled to be delivered in 2009.

The bulk of CAL's expansion is 737s, and with the retirement of 737s in CAL's conference call, those will merely be replacements in 2008 and 2009. (50 new, retiring 48 old).

And let's not forget that CAL's on the hook for XJT's entire fleet - XJT leases or subleases its ENTIRE fleet from CAL. (Read XJT's 10K to confirm - Page 7, Aircraft Financing). With XJT near bankruptcy, CAL is not in the position to buy a ton of widebodies. That could end up being a HUGE boat anchor. And Kellner's not happy with XJT's CASM results.
Another bad call by CAL management was the purchase of 4 slots at LHR for more than $200 mil. They WAY overpaid in this environment.
Did you read about how CAL's management turned >$250 mil in cash into a long term investment (ie money no longer available for a LONG time) in student loans due to an ARS failure?
CAL's balance sheet is starting to look like a train wreck.

The bottom line is that CAL doesn't have a ton of money to expand their widebody fleet. CAL's balance sheet has gone from great to great deal of trouble.
Like it or not, United's balance sheet has been cleaned up over the last year; lots of cash on hand and $2.3 billion of debt paid off last year. Yes, there weren't aircraft deliveries, but the company's finances werer significantly strenghtened going into a recession.

I saw that Kellner bought back the golden share. IIRC, the golden share doesn't stop CAL from acquiring another carrier, it only blocked being acquired. How about this quote:
Continental CEO Larry Kellner and president Jeff Smisek in a memo this week said, "As we've said repeatedly for more than a year and a half, our preference has been to remain independent as long as the competitive landscape remained the same. However, the landscape is changing. We will review our strategic alternatives and make sure we remain a strong long-term competitor."
Source: http://www.btnmag.com/businesstravelnews/headlines/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003790811

Continental's also hinting at departing Skyteam. The Star Alliance kicks Skyteam's butt.

You want to talk about international widebodies? Take a look at United's fleet - 30 747s and 52 777s. With CAL's strained finances, a merger is CAL's best chance to expand internationally.
I don't want to merge with anyone, but if a merger were to take place, CAL is UAL's best dance partner. And vice versa. Comments like bloated whale corpse show ignorance in the extreme on your part.

And the bottom line is that neither of us will have control over what happens.
 
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I hope that USair and United merge. I want nothing to do with that boat anchor called United. Let us go it on our own with option "Z". We'd have to expand like crazy but it would be on our terms. We wouldn't have to deal with shedding dead weight from merging with a bloated whale corpse.


The feeling is mutual.
 
How do you come up with that???

If UAL and USAir were to merge, it would trigger a new representational election to determine whether USAPA or ALPA represent the new combined group. With the UAL and AWA pilots vastly outnumbering the AAA pilots in that combo, USAPA would be toast.
 

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