US Airways attending Aero Crew Solutions Job Fair

[LittleDeuce]

Type Rating

With some of that in mind, I wonder if Airways will go back to not typing new hires?!?!? Anyone know if they typed the new hires in '07?

All pilots get a PIC Type Rating during the Initial Qualification Curriculim.

Remember, you are issued your type rating when you complete your LOE, but your training is not complete until you complete your OE.

Quit or do not complete OE and the FAA will take the type rating back.

 

[CavePilot]

Funny you mention that. I wonder if they are that smart at airways as to keep newhires from bidding the 737? I know the posting says it is for the 190, but others who were in class this year had reported that newhires had openings on the 190, 320 & 737. If I were a RJ Captain with a few thousand hours of PIC, I'd be gunning for the 737. Then you'd have they type AND actual time flying the thing. It certainly opens up that SWA door a bit further.

I personally think your time would be better spent filling in the check airman box or doing some community service.

Wasting your time with something as sleezy as taking employment with a company just to get a 737 type or some time in the plane would be just that...a waste of time.

It WILL help HR realize what an opportunistic dirt-bag you are though.

 

[CavePilot]

...and I'm not saying you in particular, just a person that would actually do it for that reason.

 

[cbrown1]

At this job fair do you think they will interview and offer jobs on the spot or is this more of a meet and greet?

 

[Bringupthebird]

IMHO, All new hires are basically being hired as migrant workers. Once a contract is signed and fleet minimums are shed, they will hit the street, hopefully with the credentials necessary to land a better job. I'd ask about that before quitting the RJ gig.

 

[vetrider]

Little Deuce, I hear LCC is getting back 10 190s from Republic. Can you comment on the validity, or lack thereof, of that? Supposedly, they are even painted, lol.

 

[Dornier 335]

Little Deuce, I hear LCC is getting back 10 190s from Republic. Can you comment on the validity, or lack thereof, of that? Supposedly, they are even painted, lol.

Nope. LCC is not taking them back.

 

[cactusboy53]

IMHO, All new hires are basically being hired as migrant workers. Once a contract is signed and fleet minimums are shed, they will hit the street, hopefully with the credentials necessary to land a better job. I'd ask about that before quitting the RJ gig.

Bird;
Here's a bunch of things that impact your observation:

• USAPA's leadership AND Constitution must change before a contract with the Nicolau can be proffered. The earliest that can start to happen is April 1, 2012.
• Once done, it will take at least 6 months minimum to reconstruct a NAC that is capable a qualified to get to the negotiating table with the company.
• Once final contract negotiations conclude (let's just say the company offers JUST the Kirby...PERIOD). Then we set to ratify a new contract. IMHO there is NO WAY just the Kirby passes muster.
• It will take 4-5 revisions (basically wages) until a contract has enough $$ to pass a vote.
• By the provisions in the transition agreement, it will take a year to integrate the fleets / crews.
• Retirements start 12/2012. There are also pilots that are simply retiring early @ 62-63.
• Current loads are pretty darn full. Further reductions in capacity will only harm us financially (IMHO).

CB

 

[Bringupthebird]

So, aside from the timeline (which is subject to the NMB parking/resuming) how do you materially disagree with me? The global economy shows no signs of becoming less volatile, and the 3rd list pilots will be the ones to absorb the consequences.

 

[Ocity]

If you leave a good job for us air you're playing with fire.

 

[FO4life]

I would like to start off saying that this is not flame bait, but strictly an outsider looking in. I’m a 135 guy looking to get out. US is my choice only because I live near PHL and can take the train to the airport. That said; I understand the premise that if anyone (within a union) is to get furloughed it to be the highest number or in this case the 3rd listers. Now saying that the 2 list ( west and east) get combined then the 3rd why would anyone be furloughed? The way I see it is US is hiring on a need, so even after the lists are combined there are planes to be flown unless of course there are west guys out on furlough. Again I am not up on the 121 side of things so I don’t know the ins and outs.
If you prefer to PM me with a logical answer and not that either side is poopoo head. Please do. I don’t care what side is what, I just want a paycheck.

 

[cactusboy53]

I would like to start off saying that this is not flame bait, but strictly an outsider looking in. I’m a 135 guy looking to get out. US is my choice only because I live near PHL and can take the train to the airport. That said; I understand the premise that if anyone (within a union) is to get furloughed it to be the highest number or in this case the 3rd listers. Now saying that the 2 list ( west and east) get combined then the 3rd why would anyone be furloughed? The way I see it is US is hiring on a need, so even after the lists are combined there are planes to be flown unless of course there are west guys out on furlough. Again I am not up on the 121 side of things so I don’t know the ins and outs.
If you prefer to PM me with a logical answer and not that either side is poopoo head. Please do. I don’t care what side is what, I just want a paycheck.

I guess that was my point with Bird. We are hiring because of need (not growth). That need will only escalate as time goes by (east and west). I think we are "right" sized now for stand-alone (West is at fleet minimums right now). Any speculation of what happens and when with a joint new contract is just that....speculation. If we merge with anyone, it will take a while for things to shake out as well...all the while more retirements keep happening.

The fact remains that there are no safe jobs anywhere. Given the right set of circumstances and events, and we all join the ranks of the unemployed.

Best of Luck. If we (the majority) can get a hold of our union and actually make it an organization for every pilot here, this could be a great place to work (If we can't, then LOA 93 & separate ops for a LONG TIME....and more easties crying in their beer about what's fair vs. final and binding).

 

[MCDU]

yawn

M

 

[Turtle21]

I would like to start off saying that this is not flame bait, but strictly an outsider looking in. I’m a 135 guy looking to get out. US is my choice only because I live near PHL and can take the train to the airport. That said; I understand the premise that if anyone (within a union) is to get furloughed it to be the highest number or in this case the 3rd listers. Now saying that the 2 list ( west and east) get combined then the 3rd why would anyone be furloughed? The way I see it is US is hiring on a need, so even after the lists are combined there are planes to be flown unless of course there are west guys out on furlough. Again I am not up on the 121 side of things so I don’t know the ins and outs.
If you prefer to PM me with a logical answer and not that either side is poopoo head. Please do. I don’t care what side is what, I just want a paycheck.

Furlough seems illogical. With the number of retirements coming up on both sides (especially on the PHL side), and the number of times they have been making us fly to 90 or 95 CAPs (80-85 hour lines are normal), then I can't see why a new hire needs to worry about furlough.

I can't predict the future but unless the airline industry shrinks, everywhere is going to need more pilots. Living in base is good. Apply. You can always turn it down if you think it isn't for you after you gather all the facts.

Oh, and if you can, go to law school and be a lawyer instead of a pilot.

 

[HalinTexas]

Wow, that was quick. Guess I need some more ME time:

We are fortunate to have many well-qualified candidates. At this time, we have decided to move forward in the selection process with other candidates whose qualifications and experience fit more closely with the position.

Like to hear what they're looking for.