US air thanks but no thanks letter

[Ocity]

Who the hell am I not competitive with?????

The mentally insane and the masochistic.

Forget that dump.

 

[cbrown1]

was this letter sent via email or snail mail?

 

[flyboyike]

I haven't heard a thing.

 

[Flyer1015]

Yeah, I got that 'denied' email too.

-Diversity-do I need to say more? Heck Virgin devotes a huge section of their career site explaining how they will hire people who are not white males-do you think I am kidding? Its a good company but they are all like that with the same HR directives on who they should hire

Almost every airline has a diversity page under their career section, including US Airways.

 

[MAJICJOHNSON]

Got the Rejection Email as well...8,800 total md-11/b-747 type ratings.

 

[IBNAV8R]

This thread is a joke, right? Could it be that UnServicableAir realizes they don't really want anyone who would actually want to work there?

 

[jonjuan]

Got the Rejection Email as well...8,800 total md-11/b-747 type ratings.

Unlike what wave said, I know for a fact that having a ton of hours, 737 type with no hours, etc is "sometimes" not looked on in an overly favorable manner. Fact.

 

[cbrown1]

I haven't heard a thing.

Me too.
Did you go to the job fair?

 

[weasel_lips]

This " too much turbine PIC" garbage is just that. They need people who are proven Captains. A320 upgrades are going to be 5 years or less, and e190 even less. It would make no sense to hire a bunch of career FOs. You guys with the "too much turbine PIC" have some other issue holding you back....

 

[RT8VA]

When I was at XJ a four of us went to the WIA conference, all white males and all had a lot of time to talk to the Airlines and Corporate we wanted to go to. We all got hired at the ones that we wanted. Find a way to get your resume higher on the stack, find some one you know that is there and see if they will help go to a conference be seen. Good Luck as an ex xjer I know how you feel Hawk.

 

[no1pilot2000]

Onward and upward. Have you considered other flying opportunities such as National carriers, UPS, FedEx, Fractional, charter, or international airlines? Go to www.airlinepilotcentral.com and see what you may be interested in. Good luck!

 

[Ridgeback]

Reject letter today. Veteran, BA Degree, 6500tt, 3800TPIC, clean record for flight and criminal.

"We are fortunate to have many well-qualified candidates. At this time, we have decided to move forward in the selection process with other candidates whose qualifications and experience fit more closely with the position.".

Who the hell am I not competitive with?????

your not competitive with guys that have less than 1000 PIC. Only calling those pilots. Just flew with an FO no recs, no ins...but had less than 1000 pic

 

[waveflyer]

Unlike what wave said, I know for a fact that having a ton of hours, 737 type with no hours, etc is "sometimes" not looked on in an overly favorable manner. Fact.

By who? When and where?
Why wouldn't they want to see a pilot gain experience they don't have in an airplane almost everyone has- that also further qualifies you for a good job? it shows you are pro-active and trying to keep your learning curve steep in a time of stagnation.

You have to understand- some view SWA as the best job going- most other airlines view themselves as better or equal-and saw's elite position is a very relative new development-
a direct quote from a recruiter to me: "if we don't pay enough to retain a pilot we'd like to keep, then that's a great argument to mgmt for our contract" the other side- mgmt would like to see every pilot they have on first year pay- if you leave, they replace you with a cheaper pilot.
Whether it's flight ops or mgmt recruiters, no one has much of a reason to discriminate against you for having the type- just the opposite actually- it's the pilots that leave after a few months of getting a 737 type through continental, delta, or AAA that costs them. If you already have the type- that's not a concern now.

Now will you have to explain it? Absolutely- be ready to show why you want to work where you are applying over anyone else, including SWA- but as a stand alone issue- I have never seen what you are saying prove out. Just pilots making stuff up. So show me something to make it credible-
I know Alaska used to, and maybe still do- but it's a pretty insecure company to be that silly.

 

[MooneyPilot]

Unfortunately I didn't get my 1000turbine PIC only got 500-550 :-( some on crj and dash

 

[MooneyPilot]

So lots of apps don't even let you continue without the 1000 hr pic,

 

[ERfly]

By who? When and where?
Why wouldn't they want to see a pilot gain experience they don't have in an airplane almost everyone has- that also further qualifies you for a good job? it shows you are pro-active and trying to keep your learning curve steep in a time of stagnation.

You have to understand- some view SWA as the best job going- most other airlines view themselves as better or equal-and saw's elite position is a very relative new development-
a direct quote from a recruiter to me: "if we don't pay enough to retain a pilot we'd like to keep, then that's a great argument to mgmt for our contract" the other side- mgmt would like to see every pilot they have on first year pay- if you leave, they replace you with a cheaper pilot.
Whether it's flight ops or mgmt recruiters, no one has much of a reason to discriminate against you for having the type- just the opposite actually- it's the pilots that leave after a few months of getting a 737 type through continental, delta, or AAA that costs them. If you already have the type- that's not a concern now.

Now will you have to explain it? Absolutely- be ready to show why you want to work where you are applying over anyone else, including SWA- but as a stand alone issue- I have never seen what you are saying prove out. Just pilots making stuff up. So show me something to make it credible-
I know Alaska used to, and maybe still do- but it's a pretty insecure company to be that silly.

I respectfully disagree. I have a 737 type and no time in the airplane. It was brought up at length several times during my Atlas interview (one guy even seemed pretty pissed I had it) and I do not work at Atlas. It was not brought up at my JetBlue interview, I made it to Phase 2 with them and then was rejected 8 weeks later, about the time SWA opened up their hiring window. It was also brought up at my Virgin America interview and I wasn't hired either. I thought I had a good answer as to why I had it, but I guess nobody was buying.

The only place that didn't care about it didn't hire me, either. That place was SWA.

After my experiences (and failures) this past year, I am really regretting getting it. Again, I disagree that most every airline doesn't care about it.

 

[jonjuan]

your not competitive with guys that have less than 1000 PIC. Only calling those pilots. Just flew with an FO no recs, no ins...but had less than 1000 pic

There you go. Not saying it is right, just that it is happening. Many have been turned down when hiring boards see a 737 type with no time. Not that it is right, but that it is happening.

 

[jonjuan]

I respectfully disagree. I have a 737 type and no time in the airplane. It was brought up at length several times during my Atlas interview (one guy even seemed pretty pissed I had it) and I do not work at Atlas. It was not brought up at my JetBlue interview, I made it to Phase 2 with them and then was rejected 8 weeks later, about the time SWA opened up their hiring window. It was also brought up at my Virgin America interview and I wasn't hired either. I thought I had a good answer as to why I had it, but I guess nobody was buying.

The only place that didn't care about it didn't hire me, either. That place was SWA.

After my experiences (and failures) this past year, I am really regretting getting it. Again, I disagree that most every airline doesn't care about it.

You are obviously lying because wave hasn't heard of or seen this happening.

 

[weasel_lips]

I respectfully disagree. I have a 737 type and no time in the airplane. It was brought up at length several times during my Atlas interview (one guy even seemed pretty pissed I had it) and I do not work at Atlas. It was not brought up at my JetBlue interview, I made it to Phase 2 with them and then was rejected 8 weeks later, about the time SWA opened up their hiring window. It was also brought up at my Virgin America interview and I wasn't hired either. I thought I had a good answer as to why I had it, but I guess nobody was buying.

The only place that didn't care about it didn't hire me, either. That place was SWA.

After my experiences (and failures) this past year, I am really regretting getting it. Again, I disagree that most every airline doesn't care about it.

Sorry to hear that. However, if an airline calls you to interview then they must like what the see on paper. It costs the airline a lot resources to bring in a candidate and put them through the process. If they were so against a 737 type they would have not interviewed you in the first place. Perhaps you could benefit from an interview prep service.

 

[ERfly]

Sorry to hear that. However, if an airline calls you to interview then they must like what the see on paper. It costs the airline a lot resources to bring in a candidate and put them through the process. If they were so against a 737 type they would have not interviewed you in the first place. Perhaps you could benefit from an interview prep service.

I used one for JetBlue and Southwest.