US Air info

[Hpilot]

Oh this is great. I leave my laptop at the crash pad so they can use Maestro and they high-jack my avatar on Flightinfo. What else have I been doing while I've been gone? To set the record straight I commute out of Seattle and can't get an interview with Alaksa to save my life. The other hooligan commutes out of Spokane.:uzi:

 

[Marko Ramius]

West coast bases have historically not stood the test of time in mergers. .

I'm usually a big fan of history and it's relationship to the future but this one may be off. The population movement and growth in this country has been in the west, so it seems less likely that a west coast shrink is in the future.

 

[weasel_lips]

I'm usually a big fan of history and it's relationship to the future but this one may be off. The population movement and growth in this country has been in the west, so it seems less likely that a west coast shrink is in the future.

True. Too bad they are mostly illegal aliens.

 

[Marko Ramius]

True. Too bad they are mostly illegal aliens.

And this matters to airlines, why??????????

 

[WickedPissa]

And this matters to airlines, why??????????

Maybe they don't have proper id to buy a ticket.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Actually it was America West that did the acquiring not the other way around.

Actually....didn't US Air approach AWA about a merger? Didn't AWA tell U that they didn't have the money for a merger?

Didn't they then agree that IF US Air could get the financing, then AWA would agree to a merger?

Wasn't it US Air that went begging literally door to door to get the money?

Wasn't it AWA that agreed to the merger once US Air told them they had aquired the required financing?

Just wondering....

 

[Lampshade]

Could be true don't know for a fact but what is true is the banks would have never given them one cent if old USAir was going to run the merger. AWA had financing setup from the ATA merger can't remember how much or who it was from though, but they had the ability to put together a deal.

 

[Marko Ramius]

Maybe they don't have proper id to buy a ticket.

Umm, yeah. They manage to get quality enough fake documents to fool the majority of the government officials they encounter, but they will get busted by the crack officials of the TSA or the shrewd gate agents that check our ID's before going to the plane? Besides, you don't need ID to purchase a ticket just to check in. Credit cards are never stolen or pirated though, so there is little chance someone could use one to purchase a ticket, check-in at a kiosk, pass security with a fake ID, and fly somewhere before the paper trail catches up. Sort of like falling in the mud and getting kicked in the head by an iron boot.

 

[Hpilot]

Actually....didn't US Air approach AWA about a merger? Didn't AWA tell U that they didn't have the money for a merger?

Didn't they then agree that IF US Air could get the financing, then AWA would agree to a merger?

Wasn't it US Air that went begging literally door to door to get the money?

Wasn't it AWA that agreed to the merger once US Air told them they had aquired the required financing?

Just wondering....

Where do you get your info.? The East MEC? To answer it quickly, no.

 

[cactusboy53]

Dude;
What are you smokiing? You better have brought enough to share.

SEC filings PROVE that America West Holdings AQUIRED US Air. The new home office of the NEW US Airways is located in Tempe, AZ. The CEO of the NEW US Airways is the former CEO of America West Airlines.

Did Doug use his own check book? NO. If AWA had not been involved, the old US Air would have gone the way of Eastern Airlines.

History lesson is over. This is the new world order, and Parker has the $$. Don't you think it's time to start the JNC process (again) and get the $$ BEFORE any kind of a recession hits??

 

[ex j-41]

Dude;
What are you smokiing? You better have brought enough to share.

SEC filings PROVE that America West Holdings AQUIRED US Air. The new home office of the NEW US Airways is located in Tempe, AZ. The CEO of the NEW US Airways is the former CEO of America West Airlines.

Did Doug use his own check book? NO. If AWA had not been involved, the old US Air would have gone the way of Eastern Airlines.

History lesson is over. This is the new world order, and Parker has the $$. Don't you think it's time to start the JNC process (again) and get the $$ BEFORE any kind of a recession hits??

yes AWA acquired US AIr. But only on paper. The SEC requires that in a merger you have to list who acquired who. In this case AWA was listed. But AWA never had enough money to do the deal. This is why it was a merger not a takeover. Doug P. said so himself.

 

[cactusboy53]

So let's put this to rest. Both groups followed the ALPA Merger policy. There is no evidence of malfesance to date of any party involved. Both parties signed off on binding arbitration.

The first 517 slots went to the east..fine. It's approximately relative seniority after that. Senior west guys lost some relative seniority. There is a four year fence for wide body, and quite frankly the desert is nice and the east coast is too cold to base out there for most of our people.

Let's move on and get the cash out of Doug's hands FAST!! There will be a small percentage of west pilots that will transfer to the east, and a like number of east pilots (PSA, etc.) shorten the commute also.

I'm not a big ALPA National flag waver, but that is the quickest way to our next contract. United we stand, divided....Doug wins. Do you really want that?

 

[TWA Dude]

This is why it was a merger not a takeover.

I can't believe this nonsense is still being debated. The transaction was both a merger and an acquisition and it really doesn't matter!! Saying one side "bought" the other only serves to give one side recess-lot bragging rights. Plus it makes some pilots try to say it should have some effect on seniority integration. It shouldn't and it didn't. Nicolau's decision wasn't based on who-bought-who, it was based on his interpretation of career expectations (and the other stuff) at the time the merger was announced. I say again, it just doesn't matter who bought whom.

 

[152SIC]

Actually....didn't US Air approach AWA about a merger? Didn't AWA tell U that they didn't have the money for a merger?

Didn't they then agree that IF US Air could get the financing, then AWA would agree to a merger?

Wasn't it US Air that went begging literally door to door to get the money?

Wasn't it AWA that agreed to the merger once US Air told them they had aquired the required financing?

Just wondering....

Since you are just wondering the short answer is no.

Anything else you are wondering about?

 

[lookin4better]

How senior is the DCA base?