US/AA Nov 4 Class

[asayankee]

Anybody know class size or what equipment they're expecting for this?

 

[zasca]

No one will know what equipment to expect till day 1 or 2 of class

 

[asayankee]

Not entirely true.....if called by the US side Captain Hogg tells you what equipment & bases will be available. Not specific numbers but what general a/c and bases.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Not entirely true.....if called by the US side Captain Hogg tells you what equipment & bases will be available. Not specific numbers but what general a/c and bases.

I think it's going to be the JBLU E190 out of JFK

:beer:

 

[johnsonrod]

Not entirely true.....if called by the US side Captain Hogg tells you what equipment & bases will be available. Not specific numbers but what general a/c and bases.

Boss Hogg?

 

[JumpersAway]

ASAyankee.............glad to see you made it aboard. Lyle Hogg gave a very brief and generic rundown of expected equipment and base availability. Crew Resources literally figured it out the day before your class date began. I have no idea how this works with the New American process.

You are going to enjoy it here. The people are great and the training is a gentleman's program. Come in with a great attitude and the willingness to do what they ask, and you will excel and make it through with no problems. Also, if you get the bus- dump everything you know about glass and the CRJ. Little, if anything, will carry over.

You will be happy to know that the Bus is a nice and comfy ride- cools well in the summer, and warms well in the winter. Completely different than the good ole' days at ASA in every way.

 

[Roomwithaview]

the training is a gentleman's program

Not what I heard re: the 737 program. Just sayin'

 

[RJLoser]

ASAyankee.............glad to see you made it aboard. Lyle Hogg gave a very brief and generic rundown of expected equipment and base availability. Crew Resources literally figured it out the day before your class date began. I have no idea how this works with the New American process.

You are going to enjoy it here. The people are great and the training is a gentleman's program. Come in with a great attitude and the willingness to do what they ask, and you will excel and make it through with no problems. Also, if you get the bus- dump everything you know about glass and the CRJ. Little, if anything, will carry over.

You will be happy to know that the Bus is a nice and comfy ride- cools well in the summer, and warms well in the winter. Completely different than the good ole' days at ASA in every way.

This^^^^^^^

 

[cbrown1]

Not what I heard re: the 737 program. Just sayin'

Well it's gone now.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Good to hear.

Well it's gone now.

My buddy was furloughed, got a good job elsewhere, finally took his recall and he said they treated him like a new hire, complete with the expectation that he should have the GIANT KOOLIE SMILE going 24-7 while he was in training. Pay no mind to the fact Bankruptcy was announced days after he started class. Every instructor/check air dude spent more time trying to SPIN the BK as "a good thing" than they did dealing with the training.

Maybe they did some house cleaning. I know that I gave him all my LNAV/VNAV, RNP handouts from SWA and he was quite appreciative.

 

[cbrown1]

My buddy was furloughed, got a good job elsewhere, finally took his recall and he said they treated him like a new hire, complete with the expectation that he should have the GIANT KOOLIE SMILE going 24-7 while he was in training. Pay no mind to the fact Bankruptcy was announced days after he started class. Every instructor/check air dude spent more time trying to SPIN the BK as "a good thing" than they did dealing with the training.

Maybe they did some house cleaning. I know that I gave him all my LNAV/VNAV, RNP handouts from SWA and he was quite appreciative.

Yeah they did do some house cleaning. The training was some of the easiest I've ever had in my life.

 

[LearLove]

Not what I heard re: the 737 program. Just sayin'

Are you talking about US Airs 73 program?

 

[JumpersAway]

I think things have changed dramatically in the past 12 years. Also betting the instructors he had are retired.

 

[dollacrackho]

Haven't been here too long , been through training on two airplanes and it's been a pretty damn relaxed process. Compared to regional Nazi training it's been a vacation.

 

[cbrown1]

Haven't been here too long , been through training on two airplanes and it's been a pretty damn relaxed process. Compared to regional Nazi training it's been a vacation.

Most regionals have instructors that are just there to pad their resumes and have a massive.ego. It's seems at least here there is a more.nature group.

 

[Roomwithaview]

No

are you talking about us airs 73 program?

amr-dfw

 

[LearLove]

amr-dfw

OK then. I haven't been told anything pro or con about the AA training. What I will say is that in the past 10 years between MDA and mainline I couldn't come up with one single complaint about any of the US Air training. From the instructors/check airman to the curriculum/training material everything has been top knotch in my opinion. I hope it doesn't change.

 

[JumpersAway]

Just curious, but what is it that makes the DFW 737 training program so notorious? Can anyone elaborate on the current training regiment there?????

 

[Roomwithaview]

OK then. I haven't been told anything pro or con about the AA training. What I will say is that in the past 10 years between MDA and mainline I couldn't come up with one single complaint about any of the US Air training. From the instructors/check airman to the curriculum/training material everything has been top knotch in my opinion. I hope it doesn't change.

I was intricately involved with the USAir training center (CLT) back in '96 as a hired gun and it was nothing less than stellar. Wish I remember the instructor that I had. F16 reservist with us in the E sessions. Guy was an absolute hammer. Had the SIM nailed (which is sometimes a problem) and had teaching skills I've never witnessed since. However, dudes that went thru before us had lots of problems (transitioning from props to jets). All boiled down to he said she said. From where I sat the (CLT) training center was a "gentlemans" program.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Just curious, but what is it that makes the DFW 737 training program so notorious? Can anyone elaborate on the current training regiment there?????

I only have ONE person to create feedback from. Basically:

Hillbilly good ole boy mentality
Expectations of a$$ kissing to the enth degree and if don't come then....
No real TRAINING to speak of, instead
"Know what I want when I want it"
Had (at the time) no real operational knowledge of the 800 especially
FMC

 

[aeolian]

My buddy was furloughed, got a good job elsewhere, finally took his recall and he said they treated him like a new hire, complete with the expectation that he should have the GIANT KOOLIE SMILE going 24-7 while he was in training. Pay no mind to the fact Bankruptcy was announced days after he started class. Every instructor/check air dude spent more time trying to SPIN the BK as "a good thing" than they did dealing with the training.

Maybe they did some house cleaning. I know that I gave him all my LNAV/VNAV, RNP handouts from SWA and he was quite appreciative.

if yer buddy can't figure out its different world, different industry and different airline...he's a moron. should go back to his "good job".

fact is..four big airlines no longer competing on price or trying to grow by stealing the other guys customers means bargaining power for pilots and security for all... just smile...enjoy the freakin job and be glad the ugly stuff is finally over.

 

[zasca]

Have heard that AA has some inconsistency in the way their guys teach and evaluate. Checkride could still be a sh!tshow if the guy so chooses. Whereas US has everyone on a tight leash, ie "work the program/syllabus we give you to teach or GTFO". I love the Later.