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UPS to establish Anchorage domicile

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Browntothebone

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UPS to establish Anchorage domicile
To facilitate the growth of the Asia flight network, UPS Airlines will open
a new pilot domicile in Anchorage, Alaska. The opening of this domicile will
improve operational flexibility, efficiency and reliability.
Initially, the Anchorage domicile will be staffed by 80 MD-11 pilots, some
of whom will be transfers and some of whom will be upgrades. The process of
bidding for Anchorage opportunities will begin with a vacancy bid package
that will go out on July 28.

After the bidding, staffing and training processes are completed, the
company anticipates that the domicile will be active no later than May 2007.

UPS is consulting with the Independent Pilots Association on the new
domicile, according to Capt. Rick Barr, UPS airline operations manager. "We
held advance discussions with the IPA's Executive Board last week, and
Flight Operations and the union have agreed to work together to avoid any
problems or issues in opening Anchorage," Barr said.

To help crewmembers understand how the new domicile will work, the company
is working with the IPA to create a sample bid package with sample flight
lines.

Barr also made it clear that the Anchorage announcement is not related to
the tentative labor agreement between UPS and the IPA. "We're not seeking
any contractual waivers from the IPA on the new domicile and plan to move
forward regardless of what happens with ratification," he said. "This is
simply the right thing to do to position ourselves for growth."

Growth in the air business led UPS to announce last week that it will hire
an additional 150 crewmembers by the end of 2006. The company is also
planning to hire at least 150 more crewmembers in 2007.
 
Do you think that new-hires may fill some of the FO positions at ANC? Has UPS hired anyone into the right seat of the MD-11 lately (ever)?
 
Do you think that new-hires may fill some of the FO positions at ANC?
Yes, because UPS then wouldn't have to pay moving expences.

Has UPS hired anyone into the right seat of the MD-11 lately (ever)?
Yes they have and so has FedEx.
 
It will all depend on how many existing crew members fill the open spots. If not enough take it, then yes, they will hire into the ANC base.
 
If I had a chance to work for UPS I would love the idea of an Anchorage base. Anybody in the UPS pool, if I were you don't back up from the MD-11 or the chance to live in the ANC area.....
 
FreightNazi said:
I hear that the MD-11 is a pretty hot airplane for a newhire to handle.


I am not sure exactly what you mean. World has hired many folks where the MD-11 was thier first heavy, first jet, first in many areas. I don't think anyone would say World's training was a walk in the park either. Maybe something closer to a knife fight in a phone booth. Last I heard both UPS and FedEx give more sim time to an initial candidate than World at 2 FTD's,7 sims, pre-check, PC/Type and last a loft. World will give extra trng if required as long as the candidate is close to standard and giving 110% to thier own success but they will try to get off as cheap as possible when paying for sim time. The least successful new hires have been guys World hired from the ranks of the Legacy carriers on furlough. Not flame bait of the legacy carriers but an observation of a very different enviroment that is not for everyone. Take it for what it is, just an oppinion. There is no great mystery to the MD-11 and if I were a new hire at UPS and was offered the MD-11 and ANC I would go for it..............
 
MD11Drvr said:
I am not sure exactly what you mean. World has hired many folks where the MD-11 was thier first heavy, first jet, first in many areas. I don't think anyone would say World's training was a walk in the park either. Maybe something closer to a knife fight in a phone booth. Last I heard both UPS and FedEx give more sim time to an initial candidate than World at 2 FTD's,7 sims, pre-check, PC/Type and last a loft. World will give extra trng if required as long as the candidate is close to standard and giving 110% to thier own success but they will try to get off as cheap as possible when paying for sim time. The least successful new hires have been guys World hired from the ranks of the Legacy carriers on furlough. Not flame bait of the legacy carriers but an observation of a very different enviroment that is not for everyone. Take it for what it is, just an oppinion. There is no great mystery to the MD-11 and if I were a new hire at UPS and was offered the MD-11 and ANC I would go for it..............[/quote]



Have you applied?
 
No guppykiller I have not applied. I have two big flaws in the eyes of the folks that do the hiring at UPS. 1 no college degree, 2 no internal recomendations. I am happy where I am at, but thats not to say if 1 and 2 were different I would'nt apply. There is not a lot of security in this career or any other for that matter so if I were a young man again I would get a dgree in something usesful outside of aviation and work very hard towards UPS and FedEx and if wanted to haul pax then Southwest. That would be my strategy for today in a few years things may change and it may another carrier. I am sure the guys hired by the legacy carriers in the late 90's pre 9/11 had similar ideas about job security there so it is very fluid,hence the college degree. That would be my recomendation to a young man looking at flying for a living.
 
MD11Drvr said:
No guppykiller I have not applied. I have two big flaws in the eyes of the folks that do the hiring at UPS. 1 no college degree, 2 no internal recomendations. I am happy where I am at, but thats not to say if 1 and 2 were different I would'nt apply. There is not a lot of security in this career or any other for that matter so if I were a young man again I would get a dgree in something usesful outside of aviation and work very hard towards UPS and FedEx and if wanted to haul pax then Southwest. That would be my strategy for today in a few years things may change and it may another carrier. I am sure the guys hired by the legacy carriers in the late 90's pre 9/11 had similar ideas about job security there so it is very fluid,hence the college degree. That would be my recomendation to a young man looking at flying for a living.

Very well said!
Tell it like it is. It's all basically a crap shoot!;)
 
MD11Drvr said:
No guppykiller I have not applied. I have two big flaws in the eyes of the folks that do the hiring at UPS. 1 no college degree, 2 no internal recomendations. I am happy where I am at, but thats not to say if 1 and 2 were different I would'nt apply. There is not a lot of security in this career or any other for that matter so if I were a young man again I would get a dgree in something usesful outside of aviation and work very hard towards UPS and FedEx and if wanted to haul pax then Southwest. That would be my strategy for today in a few years things may change and it may another carrier. I am sure the guys hired by the legacy carriers in the late 90's pre 9/11 had similar ideas about job security there so it is very fluid,hence the college degree. That would be my recomendation to a young man looking at flying for a living.



Hey, welcome to the club! No college here either. Didn't know a single soul that worked at UPS before I applied there.
 
FreightNazi said:
Hey, welcome to the club! No college here either. Didn't know a single soul that worked at UPS before I applied there.


That is very interesting! I was talking to a few crew members here in ANC and no on knew of anyone getting hired without a degree since the late 80's. I am glad to hear someone has gotten through to the line without a degree. I have had this college discussion many times and while I see the merits of a degree I still don't see where it makes a better pilot. I have told a few that felt a college degree is the very least to have for the job that when I become the Chief Pilot no one will get hired without an A&P. I see more merit to having an A&P as a pilot than a BS or BA. Oh well I guess thats is being arumentative. FreightNazi congrats on the job, if we cross paths at Humpy's or F Street the first one is on me.............
 
Freightnazi, guppykiller, 410dude, ABXpert, ABXbooger, Gaut, missing link, Ihaveapension, RJDC, UPSer, cynical, browntail, A380pilot and way toooo many others to list are still the same person, Rhoid. It was so nice without you, now be a good boy and go away.
 
PCD said:
Freightnazi, guppykiller, 410dude, ABXpert, ABXbooger, Gaut, missing link, Ihaveapension, RJDC, UPSer, cynical, browntail, A380pilot and way toooo many others to list are still the same person, Rhoid. It was so nice without you, now be a good boy and go away.


That's not very nice what you said to a pilot that has already made it to where you DREAM of being. Remember one thing. IF you ever make it to UPS airlines, I'll ALWAYS be senior to you! OBTW, your list is inaccurate. Besides what do you care. You need to get a life and not worry about what others are doing. Remember to keep your key on your pinky!
 

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