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How are they going to cover all of the new aircraft that are being delivered in the next year without hiring? According to my friend that is a 75/76 FO in SDF, he said that they are going to be the largest 747 operator in the world? Told me they are about to annouce 40 more 747's coming along with 10-12 MD-11's and around 20 more A300's? I don't know, if this is correct, how will they cover all of the new airplanes? Anyone.....Anyone.....Anyone!!
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I only believe the 40 747s IF we cancell the 380, which has not happened. The extra 300s is still just rumored from American. For 2006 it IS 10 MD-11s and 3 747s.Tomct said:
Anyone.....Anyone.....Anyone!!
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Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but here it is anyway.
Here's a quick run down on the bid, how the training will happen, and hiring
in general.
First, Purple Nuggets. Any new hire at FedEx will heretofore be known as a
Purple Nugget. That way, every aircraft training track will have a Purple
Nugget training program. While we have a need for 600 flight engineers at
the moment, as we retire 727s and convert DC-10s, we have much less a need for those numbers in the future . Additionally, we have 150+ geezers in the back seats now. Thus, not too far down the road, we will hire directly into the right seat routinely, just as the passenger airlines do today, because
us geezers will be serving the coffee and combing through the catering. Do
they still have those coffee stirrers that look like grease pencils?
The bid revealed that we need 69 MD-11 F/O nuggets in Anchorage, 6 A300 F/Os in Subic, 53 B727 F/O nuggets and another 200+ B727 F/E nuggets in Mempho. The DC-10 program has no new hires headed for them…yet. We currently have 230+ pilots in the pool. We will slow the interview process since we will hire a total of about 320 pilots in the next year or so. This translates into slowing or stopping meet and greets for a while too. The pool was built up intentionally to provide maximum availability for required MD-11 F/O new hires.
Each nugget headed for Anchorage has experience in both glass/FMS aircraft
and an aircraft of at least B727/A320 type weights (150,000 lbs). This is
risk management, pure and simple. You will also be seeing these newbies on
your jumpseat. They are required to ride around a few flights on a jumpseat
to watch how we operate prior to starting initial class, and they also will
have to ride on their assigned aircraft after sim phase completion, just
prior to IOE, for fam flights in their aircraft. They will be required to
identify themselves to the Captain as a Purple Nugget and will have a form
of some sort to sign saying they did their fam ride. Please welcome them
into the operation and put them in the cockpit. These flights are not
training flights for the crew but any information you can pass on to them
will help them in their program. We have hired directly into the 'Bus in
Subic in the past and have had good success, but this Purple Nugget program
will increase the odds of!
success and mitigate risk.
The MD11 F/O positions will be filled first during the next few months (8
are on board now). Some MD11 F/O training from posting 05-03 was slid 3
months or so to make room for the Nuggets. I know this is not good. We're
trying to man 19 widebodies in the next year and it's a challenge. My
apologies for the hassle. We may actually heal pretty well in manning in
about 18 months at our current training plan rate. Then we can, hopefully,
get back to smaller bids and more reasonable numbers for aircraft
acquisition. Given the choices, I'd rather have this problem than the
opposite one. (My glass is still half full and it's Jack Daniels….perfect).
The rest of the positions will be filled starting in August or so, with some
727 S/Os, and then 727 F/Os in September. If we can find anyone looking for
an adventure in the final frontier, i.e., Subic, we'll bring them in ASAP…..
Here's how I see this MD-11 F/O new hire thing. Normally we bring in new
hires who are current on some aircraft and then we make them flight
engineers. Then after 9 months or more of maybe not flying, they go back to
flying, sometimes in the MD-11 F/O seat. So, why is that a better situation
than the new hire who is current as a pilot and has flown bigger aircraft
(B727/A320 or bigger) going directly into a MD11 F/O seat? We'll see how it
works out.
As for hiring, we still are not interviewing pilots who actively work for
major airlines. Also, if your pal failed our process once before, they have
to come in personally and speak with the SCP (me for the moment). There are
no third chances. We still consider close relatives, even at majors, but
they must meet our minimums….period.
That's it for now. So much for quick. Bottom seniority number is 4691
Jack Lewis
Risk Mitigator
Here's a quick run down on the bid, how the training will happen, and hiring
in general.
First, Purple Nuggets. Any new hire at FedEx will heretofore be known as a
Purple Nugget. That way, every aircraft training track will have a Purple
Nugget training program. While we have a need for 600 flight engineers at
the moment, as we retire 727s and convert DC-10s, we have much less a need for those numbers in the future . Additionally, we have 150+ geezers in the back seats now. Thus, not too far down the road, we will hire directly into the right seat routinely, just as the passenger airlines do today, because
us geezers will be serving the coffee and combing through the catering. Do
they still have those coffee stirrers that look like grease pencils?
The bid revealed that we need 69 MD-11 F/O nuggets in Anchorage, 6 A300 F/Os in Subic, 53 B727 F/O nuggets and another 200+ B727 F/E nuggets in Mempho. The DC-10 program has no new hires headed for them…yet. We currently have 230+ pilots in the pool. We will slow the interview process since we will hire a total of about 320 pilots in the next year or so. This translates into slowing or stopping meet and greets for a while too. The pool was built up intentionally to provide maximum availability for required MD-11 F/O new hires.
Each nugget headed for Anchorage has experience in both glass/FMS aircraft
and an aircraft of at least B727/A320 type weights (150,000 lbs). This is
risk management, pure and simple. You will also be seeing these newbies on
your jumpseat. They are required to ride around a few flights on a jumpseat
to watch how we operate prior to starting initial class, and they also will
have to ride on their assigned aircraft after sim phase completion, just
prior to IOE, for fam flights in their aircraft. They will be required to
identify themselves to the Captain as a Purple Nugget and will have a form
of some sort to sign saying they did their fam ride. Please welcome them
into the operation and put them in the cockpit. These flights are not
training flights for the crew but any information you can pass on to them
will help them in their program. We have hired directly into the 'Bus in
Subic in the past and have had good success, but this Purple Nugget program
will increase the odds of!
success and mitigate risk.
The MD11 F/O positions will be filled first during the next few months (8
are on board now). Some MD11 F/O training from posting 05-03 was slid 3
months or so to make room for the Nuggets. I know this is not good. We're
trying to man 19 widebodies in the next year and it's a challenge. My
apologies for the hassle. We may actually heal pretty well in manning in
about 18 months at our current training plan rate. Then we can, hopefully,
get back to smaller bids and more reasonable numbers for aircraft
acquisition. Given the choices, I'd rather have this problem than the
opposite one. (My glass is still half full and it's Jack Daniels….perfect).
The rest of the positions will be filled starting in August or so, with some
727 S/Os, and then 727 F/Os in September. If we can find anyone looking for
an adventure in the final frontier, i.e., Subic, we'll bring them in ASAP…..
Here's how I see this MD-11 F/O new hire thing. Normally we bring in new
hires who are current on some aircraft and then we make them flight
engineers. Then after 9 months or more of maybe not flying, they go back to
flying, sometimes in the MD-11 F/O seat. So, why is that a better situation
than the new hire who is current as a pilot and has flown bigger aircraft
(B727/A320 or bigger) going directly into a MD11 F/O seat? We'll see how it
works out.
As for hiring, we still are not interviewing pilots who actively work for
major airlines. Also, if your pal failed our process once before, they have
to come in personally and speak with the SCP (me for the moment). There are
no third chances. We still consider close relatives, even at majors, but
they must meet our minimums….period.
That's it for now. So much for quick. Bottom seniority number is 4691
Jack Lewis
Risk Mitigator
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