UPS pilot starting early talks AGAIN?!?!

[Gumbydammit]

Anyone heard anything more on this? I heard from a reliable UPS source that the company is asking to start early negotiation for their contract again (post TA rejection) in order ot get the much needed MD-11 concessions among others...UPSCapt? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

 

[P-3 Bubba]

Our union signed a Memorandum of Understanding to open talks on our new contract on/about 15 October 2002, as long as the Teamsters contract is settled. The company can operate the MD-11 with Captains as IRO, at Captain's pay, of course.

 

[profile]

Is that the only limit to IROs you have, that they must be Captain's pending some other agreement (such as you have on the 767/757)? Can the company operate the MD-11s with Captain IROs indefinitely?

 

[UPS Capt]

UPS & IPA agree to talks

From: Rick Barr, Flight Operations Manager

Doug Smith, Flight Operations Labor Manager

UPS and the Independent Pilots Association (IPA) have mutually agreed to begin negotiations to amend the current working agreement. These talks will commence no earlier than Oct. 15, 2002, or within 60 days of ratification of the UPS/International Brotherhood of Teamsters labor agreement, if that occurs later.

The mutual goal of UPS and the IPA is to reach a tentative agreement by the current amendable date of Dec. 31, 2003. The agreement addresses bargaining in good faith while adhering to a week-on, week-off schedule unless the parties mutually agree to change the schedule. If no agreement has been reached by Nov. 1, 2003, the parties agree to jointly request the mediation services of the National Mediation Board to intervene in the contract talks beginning on Jan. 2, 2004.

 

[UPS Capt]

From the UPS website:


UPS will be allowed to operate the MD-11 between 8:00 and 12:00 block hours in a duty period utilizing Captains only in the position of International Relief Officer (IRO,) and all applicable IRO premium payments and work rules shall apply. The Association will retain its right to arbitrate the issue of whether or not the contract allows IROs on MD-11 flights, and UPS will agree that the grievance -- when or if filed -- is timely. If filed, the issue will be arbitrated on an expedited basis within 30 calendar days, which can be extended by mutual agreement between the parties.

Regardless of whether IPA files a grievance as outlined above, UPS agrees that the contract does not allow for First Officers to be used as IROs on any other fleet type other than the B-767 (Example: UPS can not use First Officers as IROs on the B-757, A-300, B-747-400, etc.) UPS agrees that it would constitute a major dispute within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act were the Company to utilize First Officers as IROs on any fleet other than the B-767 without first obtaining a negotiated agreement with the Association. In addition, The Company agrees that it will not use a Captain as an IRO on any aircraft type other than the MD-11 without either negotiating an Agreement with the Association or first obtaining an arbitration award in its favor from an Arbitrator in accordance with Article 7 of the current contract. The Association agrees to expedite any such arbitration process at the Company's request