UPS ONT Pilots

[English]

How's the pay and QOL?

 

[hyeflyin]

How long does it take to get ONT. Also does ONT have any out and backs or 2 day trips? If so what percent of the lines do they consist of. Thanks.

 

[de727ups]

A week at UPS is really five or six days, which often include positioning and depositioning duty.

ONT has turns to RFD, DFW, and SDF, which go junior. Maybe only 5% of the lines are turns but it seems like there are always turns in open time, so you could trade for them if that's what you like. There are also two day trips but you won't find trips like that in an entire line. They are used as stuffers to increase line credit more towards our guarantee. Again, short trips are often in open time cause commuters don't like them. If you liked them, for some reason, I'm sure you could trade into them.

ONT, though it's a more senior base, doesn't seem to me that hard to get into these days with all the hiring. In the past, it WAS hard to get into but now I can't see it taking more than a year and even the occasional new hire gets ONT.

 

[V-STALL]

I heard that the announcement of the jumbo bird is out of the bag come Tuesday. Any UPS guys that can confirm this?

Still waiting to find out the "BIG" announcment.............................

 

[psysicx]

Is a turn line where your home every day?

 

[de727ups]

"Is a turn line where your home every day?"

Yep, if home happens to be in your base.

 

[psysicx]

Why would a turn line be so junior? You would think that people would like to be home everyday?

 

[V-STALL]

Why would a turn line be so junior? You would think that people would like to be home everyday?

People who want to be home everyday bid reserve. They play the reserve game and hope not to get called out.

 

[psysicx]

That makes sense but I would rather know if I was going to fly rather then hope I wasn't. What times do these turns takeoff and land?

 

[de727ups]

Turns suck big time for commuters. If your local, bidding reserve is a better deal. Knowing your gonna fly vs hoping your not gonna fly? That's why locals bid reserve.....

ONT-SDF blocks at out at 2003 and in at 0505. ONT-DFW is out at 2022 and in at 0310.

 

[Clyde]

Why would a turn line be so junior? You would think that people would like to be home everyday?

They can be more work than they are worth.

For example, you leave your home at 1300 to make your 1400 show for your 1500 departure to someplace like EWR. When you get back to SDF, it is around 2300 or 2400. Get home at 0100. Sleep, wake up, putt around and leave the house again at 1300 for the same thing.

It's worse on the night side. One of the turns that I disliked the most was doing an early morning ONT turn out of SDF. Flight left in the middle of the night and blocked back in just before noon. Ouch!!

Given the choice, I would rather leave for a week, fly my trip, and then come home for a week. Especially with gas at $2.70/gal, I would much rather make the trek to the airport 3 times a month instead of 3 times a week.