UPS/FEDEX etc Jumpseating

[DrinkSweetTea]

How far along have we gotten on getting the jumpseat with these companies restored for 121 Drivers? Has any progress been made?

 

[Big Duke Six]

OK

OK, I'm stupid. What IS sweet tea then?

 

[DrinkSweetTea]

Its a lost art that is rarely found and found only it certain places. Refer to the map to the left for more details. You CANNOT have regular Iced Tea and just add sugar thats on the table....That is NOT sweet Tea. This ruins the image of sweet tea for many.

WHat is sweet Tea? The greatest beverage known to man.

Any idea on the jumpseat progress?

 

[Flying Illini]

Was just down in Smyrna where I ordered up some sweet tea (like I always do when I'm down south). It's good stuff but seriously, it's just tea with a boat-load of sugar mixed in!

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I don't know about you...

But every time I put sugar in tea, THE $HIT IS FUKIING SWEET!

If sugar in your tea tastes bitter, sour or salty, you've got problems.

Furthermore, I contend that BEER is the greatest beverage known to man (and fat chicks).

Actually, the best iced tea I can think of is of the Long Island variety.

I don't expect to see UPS or FedEx jumpseats opening up to us anytime soon, but sure do have my fingers crossed.

 

[Big Duke Six]

Hey DST -

No disrespect intended, but your answer didn't really help. All I know is that whenever I'm in the South, they ask me if I want "Sweet" or "Un". The "Sweet" sure tastes like "Un" with a crapload of sugar in it.

Help me out here man. What's the difference, seriously?

 

[DrinkSweetTea]

From a recipe book...
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We in the south make the best iced tea you'll find. Maybe it's how it's done, or maybe it is the water in the south, or maybe it's just that a southern belle has put a lot of TLC into making the tea. Who knows!
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Its all in the preperation. Whenever I travel up north, they say the have Tea, and there is sugar on the table. They feel that this is Sweet Tea. This is not. And this is the cause of many people missing out on real Sweet Tea. Cold Ice tea doesnt hold the sugar as well and you dont get a good mixture, it all settles and its not anything alike.
Hope this helps.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

You should change your handle to "Teabag".

 

[Trout]

Hugh Jorgan just won himself a beer

 

[Wankel7]

I used to love sweet tea. I used to work at a country club and we had big urns full of it. Drank that stuff down. Until one day. One day I started to look at that urn. And then I looked at the spigot. And pondered how often they took it apart and cleaned it.

Well, all pondering aside I took it apart and checked on it. When I opened that valve I stopped drinking the tea. It was filled with this brown slim. Sort of like a pudding. But not as solid. It was a bitch to get out. I had to let it sit in bleach for like 30 minutes. Then rinse it like mad to get the bleach out. It was just foul. Nobody knew you were supposed to clean it. The regular tea didn't have the brown slim as bad. I guess the sugar helps that slime do it's thing. Yep, the brown slim did me in. I cringed when I served it. I cleaned them my self. But I didn't work there every day.

Besides what is the big deal with adding sugar? All we did was put absurd amounts of sugar in the urn while it brewed. Not much different than doing it to your glass. Unless, the tea being real hot helps the sugar sweeten it?

FedEx ups jump seats? My crystal ball says negative.

Wankel

 

[Ailerongirl]

DST:I'm with you on the sweet tea!

Wankel: That's just nasty....Tea urns are supposed to be cleaned out and talen apart each week! That's just laziness, or ignorance on the part of mgmt!

The secret behind sweet tea is that the sugar is put in whilst the tea is still hot....it melts and "brews" into the tea, resulting ins a very different taste than sugar just being dumped into cold tea. You then have to leave it out to cool before putting it in the fridge.

British by birth, Southern by the Grace of God

 

[Big Duke Six]

Alright!

Now we're getting somewhere! I can handle that - just put the sugar in while it's still hot. Thanks Aileron Girl!

I don't think that UPS and FedEx are going to cough up the money for reinforced cockpit doors just to accomodate offline jumpseaters. But, if the TSA or whoever mandates reinforced doors for all 121 Cargo carriers, then they will comply and poof! we'll be able to jumpseat with them by default. I don't think the threat of someone stowing away in a demi, breaking out of it, and fighting through 10 rows of other metal containers to the cockpit is a very real one yet.

So, I'd have to also say "Not any time soon".

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Sweet tea is a dentists' job security...

Drinksweettea....not sure if I have ever seen someone highjack their own thread....

 

[active_herk]

I don't think that UPS and FedEx are going to cough up the money for reinforced cockpit doors just to accomodate offline jumpseaters. But, if the TSA or whoever mandates reinforced doors for all 121 Cargo carriers, then they will comply and poof! we'll be able to jumpseat with them by default.

Actually, FedEx has come pretty far in getting the reinforced cockpit doors in place. I am sure their "motivation" for doing so regards being able to place their business jumpseaters back on board the airplanes. I know a few months back, it seemed more of the MD-11s I was on didn't have the reinforced doors, but the opposite is true now. We're sure hoping it won't be much longer before we can take you guys and gals again. The big problem though, remains the fact that until this jumpseat stuff is resolved by the TSA and the FAA where offline jumpseaters are allowed in the cockpits, I'm afraid our jumpseats won't be of much use to you offline guys. While you will be allowed in the widebodies, you won't be allowed in the 727, since we don't have any with jumpseats outside the cockpit. This may make for some problems for guys having to make connections with us.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Tea urns are supposed to be cleaned out and talen apart each week! That's just laziness, or ignorance on the part of mgmt!

This is a problem I encountered with a lot of girls in the south. They think some things only need to be cleaned once a week. As for the tea urn, just imagine all the bacteria that fester all week long. That stuff is half sugar! Pure bacteria food. Clean it everyday (just like every other little bacteria haven, wink, wink).

 

[Ailerongirl]

*shaking head* Not even touching the last part of that!

Seriously on the tea urns though...they need to be rinsed out everyday...if you do that the spout doesn't get clogged too bad, because you flush water through it to clean out the sugar. Once a week however it really does need to be taken apart and soaked.

 

[dsee8driver]

Okay on the tea issue, I use my sista inlaw's recipe. Boil the sugar and the water for 1 minute, then take off stove and drop the tea bag.

On the jumpseat issue, I'm in the process of taking over the jumpseat comittee here and so far what I have heard is not too good. Cargo carriers have had the reinforced door requirement for a while unless they got extensions. We have ours all in place. What a deathtrap! But thats another thread....
There is a program that's coming along that has hit the usual snag, financing! I believe UPS is spearheading the program. The problem is cost for individual airlines. The figure that has been thrown out is somewhere in the $1000.00 month from airlines. This goes to keeping the servers running and the manpower for them. You would get a sort of id that when ran through the database confirms your employment. They need manpower to update them on a regular basis like every hour or so. So if someone got fired they would go off the list immediately.
Our airline said they are not going to pay.

Our jumpseats recently openned up for offline but you must check in ahead of time so they can verify you.

It's funny, I read a memo of who can jumpseat in the cockpit of an airliner and lo'd be'hold TSA inspectors CAN! What a crock!

 

[freightdogfred]

As I recall it's the Captain's decision as to whom may occupy a cockpit jumpseat. I would personally have a hard time giving access to a TSA employee, while having to leave a fellow crewmember back at the gate. But I'm just jerking gear and answering the telephone right now, so what do I know..........

 

[frank rizzo]

The doors run between 35,000 to 40,000 grand a pop, the federales will give an airline about 14,000 towards the installation. As for cargo carriers Amerijet International which has a B727 fleet has just completed the mod on all of there a/c. As for the other cargo carriers i dont see them doing it, and the tsa isnt going to twist there arm. Just try getting that approved through the bean counters at a company.

 

[DrinkSweetTea]

If some cargo companies refuse to add the doors and comply with the TSA regs, will that mean that will lose their "recips" with passenger airlines?