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Capt TedStriker

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LOUISVILLE, Ky., Jan 10, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Moving to expand the
capacity of its air network to accommodate strong international growth, UPS
(UPS) today announced a firm order for 10 A380 super-jumbo freighter
aircraft made by Airbus.

In a related decision, UPS and Airbus have agreed to amend a previous order
for A300 aircraft.

"The A380 will allow UPS to effectively meet the fast-growing demands of our
customers across a variety of global trade lanes," said John Beystehner, UPS
chief operating officer and president of UPS Airlines. "This plane offers an
exciting combination of payload and range that will help improve both the
capability and efficiency of our international network."

"We are extraordinarily pleased to have UPS join the growing list of A380
customers, particularly because their order demonstrates the strength of the
aircraft as a freighter for air carriers based around the world," said Noel
Forgeard, Airbus President and Chief Executive Officer.



Deliveries of UPS's A380s are scheduled to begin in 2009 and run through
2012. The order also gives UPS the option to purchase 10 more of the planes.
The purchase price of the aircraft was not disclosed. UPS has not yet made
an engine selection for the A380.

Under the agreement regarding A300 aircraft, UPS is reducing its previous
order for 90 planes to 53. To date, 40 A300s have been delivered and the
remaining 13 will be delivered by July 2006.

The A380 has the capacity to carry three decks of cargo with container
capacity of nearly 40,000 cubic feet and a maximum structural payload of
330,000 pounds. With a range of 5,600 nautical miles, the A380 can fly
non-stop to places around the world that used to take two or more flights.

UPS's international business has been very strong. During the third quarter
of 2004, for example, UPS's total international export volume climbed 13.2%
over the prior-year period. Asia export volume increased 29% and export
volume out of China more than doubled compared to the prior year.

"We continually evaluate and adjust the company's air network to meet the
needs of our customers," Beystehner added. "Our strong international growth
has increased our need for larger aircraft and the super jumbo is part of
that solution."

UPS is the world's largest package delivery company and a global leader in
supply chain services, offering an extensive range of options for
synchronizing the movement of goods, information, and funds. Headquartered
in Atlanta, UPS serves more than 200 countries and territories worldwide.
UPS stock trades on the New York Stock Exchange (UPS) and the company can be
found on the Web at UPS.com.
 
Maybe that has something to do with the rumor that FedEx was getting a deal on the A300's UPS canceled from Airbus............

UPS, always copying FedEx.......
 
sandman2122 said:
Maybe that has something to do with the rumor that FedEx was getting a deal on the A300's UPS canceled from Airbus............

UPS, always copying FedEx.......

.......And now they can do it at Fedex Kinkos, Copy and print center......Hell our Office can now be their Office!;)
 
sandman2122 said:
Maybe that has something to do with the rumor that FedEx was getting a deal on the A300's UPS canceled from Airbus............

PLEASE ... PLEASE .... take those pieces of French sh$t off our hands!

Oh God ... on another thread I was teasing about us looking for L-1011's .. tell me you haven't announced you're going to buy them too? A year later they'll end up on our ramp.

All I can say is they must have had UPS over a barrel (bent over most likely ... knowing the French) to get out of the remaining 37 A-300's.
 
How many pilots will 10 A380s employ? How many pilots would 37 A300s (which will no longer be bought) have employed? So was this a good thing or bad thing?

Capt TedStriker said:
LOUISVILLE, Ky., Jan 10, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Under the agreement regarding A300 aircraft, UPS is reducing its previous
order for 90 planes to 53. To date, 40 A300s have been delivered and the
remaining 13 will be delivered by July 2006.
 
vc10 said:
How many pilots will 10 A380s employ? How many pilots would 37 A300s (which will no longer be bought) have employed? So was this a good thing or bad thing?

Interesting thought vc10 ... so you're suggesting UPS purchased 10 ultra-long range super jumbo aircraft to REPLACE 37 medium widebodies with only 2000 nm range (aka the A-300)? Kind of like commuting in a RV, don't you think? Now, I'm the first one to dog UPS over this purchase, but even I think these jets are intended to operate international trunk routes (US - Asia, US - Europe, Europe-Asia) ... but you could very well be right and they'll put them on SDF-DSM, SDF-DFW, etc..

Kidding aside, these were bought to get out of the unwanted 37 remaining A-300 orders (pieces of junk). Look for another announcement (hopefully Boeing ... 747-400, or 777) to replace the lost A-300 lift, China growth, and Menlo acquisition.

YMMV,

BBB
 
How many pilots will 10 A380s employ?

Down in Mempho I'm guessing that thing will almost always operate with a double crew, i.e. two captains and two f/o's. That'll take you out to 16 hours enroute, I believe. They'll also all be super senior, with alot of vacation and sick leave usage, so the pilots per seat may be very high.
 
Flew with a Captain who used to do acceptance flights in Dresden, Germany on our A300's HE SAID (not me) that FedEx origionally wanted to put @ 25 "coach style" jumpseats upstairs, but later agreed to @12 first class, fully reclining seats........He didn't know if that would qualify for a few sexy first class off-duty Hooter style flight attendants!!! ;)

Would be nice if we had a shower onboard..............
 
My feeling is this is just the BEGINNING of a purchasing spree at UPS. The company has already demonstrated that they have no problem operating a diverse fleet. Rumors continue to circulate about 747-400SF's and/or 777Fs. Plus the Atlas/Polar rumor remains. Senior boxheads in Atlanta have been quoted saying that UPS is not finished aquiring freight forwarders plus they have been quoted as saying that they LOVE the numbers on a 777F.

Don't be surprised if the A380 deal was just a way for UPS to get out of the A300 order.
 
Just a couple of questions.


I currently fly the 757/767 at DAL, and love the aircraft. That said, I have usually heard good things about the A300/A310 (aside from that pesky rudder snap, but that is a different discussion).

An American friend who flies it really likes it. He says it is great for cargo (as evidenced by the large FedEx fleet) and works well for large pax, but medium range routes, such as JFK to the Caribbean. It does NOT work well on transatlantic routes, where the 767ER does.

That said, why are you UPS guys down on the 300? Have you had a bad experience with the aircraft at UPS? Any FedEx inputs?

No agenda here--just curious.
 
I like it. Simple systems, easy to operate, great engines. FMS is slow though.

Can't tell you about the MX percentages.......
 
JohnQ said:
Just a couple of questions.


I currently fly the 757/767 at DAL, and love the aircraft. That said, I have usually heard good things about the A300/A310 (aside from that pesky rudder snap, but that is a different discussion).

An American friend who flies it really likes it. He says it is great for cargo (as evidenced by the large FedEx fleet) and works well for large pax, but medium range routes, such as JFK to the Caribbean. It does NOT work well on transatlantic routes, where the 767ER does.

That said, why are you UPS guys down on the 300? Have you had a bad experience with the aircraft at UPS? Any FedEx inputs?

No agenda here--just curious.

John Q,
I find that it depends who you talk to around here. Seems like the guys who flew the 757/767 prior to the A300 do not like it as much. The biggest complaint typically is with the FMC. The guys who didn't fly glass tend to like the A300. Both have said that the airplane hand-flies nicely.

I'm with you, in that I love the 757 and 767. However, for the right schedule, that can change too.
 

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