Upcoming SMO Changes and Impact on Fractionals...

[t-bone]

Don't forget the fact that runway 21 has a 1.2% DOWNHILL gradient! As if the short runway wasn't challenging enough...

 

[realityman]

No Netjets plane will be able to get in there if this stands.

Uh, how did you reach that conclusion? The Citation X, for example, is one of the quietest jets operating today. The APU makes more noise than the engines. I always shut it down before departure out of there. Minimal use of thrust reversers works well at keeping the neighbors happy.

I always ask for a noise plot when I depart there. And most of the time, simply by following the noise abatement procedures, the X won't even register on the system.

But for all the other reasons stated in this thread, that airport is a pain in the a**.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Uh, how did you reach that conclusion? The Citation X, for example, is one of the quietest jets operating today. The APU makes more noise than the engines. I always shut it down before departure out of there. Minimal use of thrust reversers works well at keeping the neighbors happy.

I always ask for a noise plot when I depart there. And most of the time, simply by following the noise abatement procedures, the X won't even register on the system.

But for all the other reasons stated in this thread, that airport is a pain in the a**.

The proposal would ban APPROACH category C and D from the airport. I don't think the X makes Cat B. It's just a back door way of excluding jets from the airport. The funny thing is, a Cessna 210 with that big 'ol TSIO-520 makes more noise on takeoff than half a dozen jets I can think of. Bonanzas at full power are pretty loud too. I don't want to see it happen because of the bad precedent it sets (hello, Meigs Field!) but I'll gladly go elsewhere.

 

[realityman]

Sorry, you're absolutely right GSD. The X won't fly slowly enough on approach for Cat B. :erm:

Ah well, I'll miss the Atlantic bucks, but not much else about that airport.

 

[skiandsurf]

Sorry, you're absolutely right GSD. The X won't fly slowly enough on approach for Cat B. :erm:

Ah well, I'll miss the Atlantic bucks, but not much else about that airport.

And the Atlantic Bucks will miss us.

 

[Hogprint]

The U-boat can do it...

 

[jonjuan]

Uh, how did you reach that conclusion? The Citation X, for example, is one of the quietest jets operating today. The APU makes more noise than the engines. I always shut it down before departure out of there. Minimal use of thrust reversers works well at keeping the neighbors happy.

I always ask for a noise plot when I depart there. And most of the time, simply by following the noise abatement procedures, the X won't even register on the system.

But for all the other reasons stated in this thread, that airport is a pain in the a**.

Uh, do you have any idea what the proposed restriction is for? The X is cat C which has nothing to do with your noise plots.

 

[imacdog]

Uh, do you have any idea what the proposed restriction is for? The X is cat C which has nothing to do with your noise plots.

Yeah but you specifically said no NetJets plane will be able to get in. What about the Ultra, Encore, Encore+, Excel, XLS, Sovereign, and maybe one of our other jets that make Cat B on approach?

 

[jonjuan]

Oops, forgot about the Citations....

 

[t-bone]

Just curious...The Sovereign can make Cat B on a circling approach?