United Airlines parent posts smaller loss...right

[RedDogC130]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/United-Airlines-parent-posts-rb-561591452.html?x=0&.v=1

only 240 million.

 

[Kugelblitz]

Watch for CAL to have a really big loss. I suspect this is all part of the confabulation to entice the shareholders and lenders to eventually sign off on a merger. No proof, just my thoughts. Plus, since we are in contract negotiations, we won't be profitable most of the time to justify a crappy contract.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

listening to UAL conf call now...so much BS...yeah I would tend to say merger is 2010-2011 timeframe especially cuz JAL is apparently choosing DAL.

 

[AWACoff]

Watch for CAL to have a really big loss. I suspect this is all part of the confabulation to entice the shareholders and lenders to eventually sign off on a merger. No proof, just my thoughts. Plus, since we are in contract negotiations, we won't be profitable most of the time to justify a crappy contract.

You do realize CAL posted a 4th quarter profit, right?

 

[Mr.B]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/United-Airlines-parent-posts-rb-561591452.html?x=0&.v=1

only 240 million.

Sounds like a fairly decent report....

 

[sleeves]

You do realize CAL posted a 4th quarter profit, right?

Kind of shoots that conspiracy down.

 

[Kugelblitz]

You do realize CAL posted a 4th quarter profit, right?

Nope. I have to get out from under my rock. That is a real suprise considering the contract situation. Here's hoping for the best (not easy for a cynic like me to say!).

 

[Kugelblitz]

Kind of shoots that conspiracy down.

I hope you are right. It doesn't seem like much of a conspiracy given the prior attempt to merge, and how cozy we seem to be with UAL today under the auspices of Star Alliance.

 

[Propsync]

"UAL said consolidated passenger revenue per available seat mile, a key airline measure, fell 5.2 percent in the fourth quarter, an improvement over the third quarter's 14.7 percent drop."

Somebody typed these words, right? You're still losing more revenue, but you're doing a better (excellent by executive standards) job by losing less than before?

 

[chppr5]

"UAL said consolidated passenger revenue per available seat mile, a key airline measure, fell 5.2 percent in the fourth quarter, an improvement over the third quarter's 14.7 percent drop."

Somebody typed these words, right? You're still losing more revenue, but you're doing a better (excellent by executive standards) job by losing less than before?

Comparing quarter to quarter, not to previous quarter. (4th qt 2009 to 4th qt 2008, not 4th qt 2009 to 3rd qt 2009).

 

[ultrarunner]

You do realize CAL posted a 4th quarter profit, right?

That is a real suprise considering the contract situation.

Ok, I'm a little fuzzy on that line of thinking.

Are there actually people out there that believe that?

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Do you ever notice that after a mgmt team shrinks an airline in an effort to return to profitability the best news we come to see is "Losses slightly less than were anticipated". Hurray!!

"Mainline RPMs are down from last year"...Well duh they got rid of the 737 in favor of 3rd party RJs. WTFO

 

[Jetjockey]

Imagine a general in a war addressing the troops.

"Well, most of us got shot, but we are bleeding a lot less than than the last battle, and that is terrific news. Now, try to use less bullets because that costs money. Oh yeah, one more thing, we won't be getting replacements but you will have to fight longer battles, with less food, again to save money. Since your commanders have initiated these incredible cost savings, we commanders will increasing our retirements and pay bonuses. Carry on troops, your doing great."

 

[Shrek]

Imagine a general in a war addressing the troops.

"Well, most of us got shot, but we are bleeding a lot less than than the last battle, and that is terrific news. Now, try to use less bullets because that costs money. Oh yeah, one more thing, we won't be getting replacements but you will have to fight longer battles, with less food, again to save money. Since your commanders have initiated these incredible cost savings, we commanders will increasing our retirements and pay bonuses. Carry on troops, your doing great."

That was pretty good........lol

 

[Captain X]

I hope you are right. It doesn't seem like much of a conspiracy given the prior attempt to merge, and how cozy we seem to be with UAL today under the auspices of Star Alliance.

"Consideration" was given to merging but not an attempt to. And we got equally cozy with DAL and NWA when we initially joined the "auspices" of SkyTeam. Consolidating gates/lounges, coordinating schedules, sharing codes on flights, interchangeable FF award programs, etc, etc, etc.

Of course, we DID almost merge with DAL back in the day. And "labor" got in the way.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

That was pretty good........lol

Good?
Sad is what it is. Cause its just about spot on!!

 

[Shrek]

Good?
Sad is what it is. Cause its just about spot on!!

Yup gotta laugh at the insanity - at the same time saving up for the "self help".

Hold on to that scope (for Alliances AND 50 seat) and it will provide a better future for both of us ........

The SLI will hurt me either way so as long as Tilton and Co. are gone I am good with that. Just no CLE base ok ?!