United 1st Year Pay

[waveflyer]

I was thinking the same thing. I started at $31/hr. It was quite difficult but all of us made it work. Does anyone start over $80/hr?

Nobody does, but EVERY MAJOR AIRLINE should and we should do it while times are good.

Remember when almost every airline was in bankruptcy and pilots had almost no leverage bc starting over meant not only full seniority lost, but also back to $25k-$30k

At least at $100/hour pilots can take a stand knowing the next job will pay a liveable wage -

Besides- we've earned it by the time we get to a major. I don't care what your background is, you come in day 1 bloody f^cking experienced and a valuable asset.

 

[gearjockey]

I'm an ERJ capt with XJT and generally credit over 100 hours a month. My wife doesn't work and we have a baby at home. When I move on, day care and a reserve schedule and no family in town would be almost impossible so I will be the sole breadwinner for the foreseeable future. Even if my wife worked it would barely cover daycare so it's kind of a wash between her working or staying home.

I remember when CAL newhires were getting like $33 an hour so $66 is definitely an improvement. But wanted to see how guys actually fare on the line. My app is out there. Hopefully we can get some money saved and move on at the right time. My main priority is to provide for my family and the long term stability at XJT isn't as good as moving on for sure!

So are you only applying to United and that's why you asked the question about United?

 

[list2002]

Times are good and United still can't make money.

 

[dojetdriver]

I don't know how you young pilots do it. This is a tough industry to have a new family at home. As we say in the military when child issues come up, "you weren't issued a kid!" But I feel for you, gone all the time, no break for mama. Good luck...

Keep in mind, with that thing called "the dark decade" basically over, some of the guys with a baby at home might not be so "young" right now.

In other words, they were hired at a regional pre 9/11, weren't hired during the "boom" of 2007-2008, and NOW it's basically 14-15-16 years later and suddenly things like having a kid and progress in life as an adult start to creep on them. All the while, STILL holding their breath, treading water, chasing their tale trying to get the legacy job going on 15+ years now.

 

[nimtz]

Anyone just applying now to UAL is well over a year from seeing a class date. Plenty of time to budget. Most important thing , GTFO of the regional business.

 

[waveflyer]

Anyone just applying now to UAL is well over a year from seeing a class date. Plenty of time to budget. Most important thing , GTFO of the regional business.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better ^^^^

 

[Captzaahlie]

I second the GTF outa the regional biz.
It was a tough pill for me to swallow also, planned for the one year at a $50k pay decrease didnt plan for the furlough 7months later with 1 year of unemployment and 2 years at a cargo gig 2 weeks on one and 1/2 off but Id do it all over again to be getting the 100k in the right seat of an airbus now. I f i could make it it with out loosing the house or most of my 401k with 2 kids and a wife theres no reason why someone else cant. Jump and dont look back!

 

[robair73]

Be a pu$$y and stay at the regionals.

 

[xjhawk]

Consider the cost when XJT goes t$&@ up or takes a bankruptcy concession? Plus, remember that you also get 16% of your salary thrown into retirement from day one. When I was at XJT, I believe it was a 6% match- not sure if that has gone down or not.

Not trying to be harsh, but quite honestly, you can't afford NOT to do it if you plan on ever retiring. I know it sucks, I've been there believe me living in NJ ain't cheap but I've never regretted taking the leap.

Its not just XJT who is in trouble, I think all regionals except maybe Skywest are in trouble. Even Endeavor Air cannot staff the planes it currently has and cannot hire fast enough to keep up with just FO attrition, let alone the captains who are leaving. That is with the much hated deal given to only new hires that give them a flow to Delta after almost impossible requirements are met. Current pilots cannot count on the Delta interview because successful interview numbers are directly related to the staffing issues at Endeavor. For those of you in the cheap seats, it means that you will not be successful at your interview if Delta needs Endeavors planes staffed.