Union Officers Pay

[ASA]

Not trying to stir up trouble, but does anyone happen to know what sort of pay our ASA ALPA leader makes per year? How about the contract negotiaters? Anyone else on the payroll, and do they have to fly, or a full-time job?

 

[81Horse]

I can't speak to the situation at ASA specifically.

Union officers, reps, and committee members generally are paid for lost flights/trips; or sometimes, in the case of a full-time ALPA position at an airline, the minimum guarantee for the position he/she could hold. The MEC would authorize the flightpay loss reimbursement. Depending on what's happening at your airline, that could come out of LEC, MEC -- or even the national's -- budget.

Generally, ALPA officers and committee people put in way more hours than they are ever reimbursed for. Just sayin'.

 

[igneousy2]

The company pays the pilot whatever they bid as if they flew it, ALPA then reimburses the company a certain percentage (higher than 100%) to compensate for the cost of benefits, taxes, etc.

Your ASA chairman is making whatever someone of his seniority makes.

Later

 

[701EV]

Not trying to stir up trouble, but does anyone happen to know what sort of pay our ASA ALPA leader makes per year? How about the contract negotiaters? Anyone else on the payroll, and do they have to fly, or a full-time job?

Perception is reality ASA you are trying to stir the pot! If you are an ASA pilot just go ask them or put your question on the ALPA board. Its your right to know.

701EV

 

[PCL_128]

It depends on the situation. I don't get paid any sort of salary just for being on the MEC. I am only paid for the time I can't fly due to ALPA work. For example, in February we are scheduled to have an MEC meeting for three days. If I am supposed to work on those days then the company will have to take me off of those trips with pay and the Association will reimburse the company for that time. ALPA calls it Flight Pay Loss (FPL). The Association also pays for any expenses I incur as a result of doing ALPA work (meals, lodging, taxis, cell phone, etc...).

Since ASA pilots are in negotiations, your MEC Chairman and the Negotiating Committee are probably on full-time "buyout" which works a little differently. They won't bid for flying, so it's impossible to pay them the normal FPL based on lost flying. Instead, they pay them on the basis of the maximum credit they could have received if they were flying the line. Basically, they aren't really making any extra money by doing union work. They are actually spending a lot more time at work than a typical line pilot and not getting paid much extra for it. Thank your MEC Chair and NC next time you see them.

 

[CLE145CA]

Ask to see your MEC's Policy Manual since each ALPA carrier has one. It should spell out how the MEC officers (generally on full-time trip loss) and the LEC officers are paid (generally as indicated above only if required to attend an MEC meeting).

At XJT, the MEC officers get paid 110% of the line values of three pilots junior to them in their domicile/status if they would be a line holder and 85 hours (guarantee + 10 hours) if they would be a reserve pilot in their domicile. The extra 10% and 10 hours are subject to an annual review to ensure an accurate reflection of what pilots are earning on the line or reserve.

MEC officers certainly aren't getting rich off doing union work.