Unfriggin believable!!

[T-Gates]

You're not paying very close attention to this man. He has a history now of "advising" MEC's what's best for them but really it's only what's best for the Big Boys. And it's no conspiracy, it's just business. ALPA panders to it's larger sources of income and abuses the weak.

I know plain well that ALPA national is not unfoulable, not in the least. But some people like to solely blame national for bad union descisions. In this case I agree and know full well that national certainly was lobbying for the passage of the LOA. But some people like to use ALPA national as a quick scapegoat when sh!t goes south, rather than looking closer to home at elected MEC officials. Because in the end, they are the ones with thier signatures on the LOA.

The only reason I responded as tersely as I did is I am sick of people ignoring thier own elected MEC officials, and immediately blaming national for thier woes. (Even though I concede that they have just as much of a hand in it as the MEC)

Just a bad day!

 

[surplus1]

You're not paying very close attention to this man. He has a history now of "advising" MEC's what's best for them but really it's only what's best for the Big Boys. And it's no conspiracy, it's just business. ALPA panders to it's larger sources of income and abuses the weak.

Congratulations! Spoken like a true victim of similar abuse. Some predators do eat their young (and sometimes their old too.)

 

[N8Dogg]

You're not paying very close attention to this man. He has a history now of "advising" MEC's what's best for them but really it's only what's best for the Big Boys. And it's no conspiracy, it's just business. ALPA panders to it's larger sources of income and abuses the weak.

Can you say Mesa? When are the little guys gonna learn and kick ALPA to the curb?

 

[Smoking Man]

Bump.....

 

[Indypilot]

" Because in the end, they are the ones with thier signatures on the LOA."

Ah, yes, but don't forget, ole duane's signature needs to be on the document as well. It one thing for an MEC to approve something, its another for them to sign a document they don't want to sign under duress because of the gun being held to their head by THEIR OWN UNION PRESIDENT.

Do you honestly believe duane would sign something that would hurt his protected babies? uh no, but he will screw over everyone else to protect his highest revenue customers. Its a disgrace.

 

[jrav8tor]

Bump!

So guys and gals,

How does this affect a new hire with PSA? Just curious.

Thanks!

 

[Smoking Man]

This would not have any effect on a new hire, due to the fact that you would be junior to begin with. You will just here everyone BI*#H about it until you are sick.

The only people that got screwed are the Dornier PSA pilots, they are the ones that got the J4J (50% of the captains seats given away with out a pilot vote) forced upon them. Now in an even more clever move the MEC gave away seniority (sloted bidding for APL pilots once again no pilot vote) based on a LIE, misrepresented facts, or just general stupidity, not sure if it is one of the reasons listed or a mixture of the above.

 

[jrav8tor]

Smoke,

Thanks. We were told during the interview in July, upgrade would be around 12-18 mos. Now that they have extended the delivery deadline to 4/06, will that change the seniority timeframe? Logic to me says yes, since PSA won't be getting as many jets as fast as they would before?

THanks!

 

[InclusiveScope]

The PSA pilots are fighting back:

http://www.psapilotalliance.8m.com/

 

[Smoking Man]

jrav8tor

If I had to take a guess I would say 24-36 or longer depending on your DOH, to many different paths this things could take to be accurate on the guess.


Who knows the PSA MEC may give up new hires to wash J4J pilots cars because someone said someone said PDT was going to do it.

 

[BankAccount=0$]

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Who knows the PSA MEC may give up new hires to wash J4J pilots cars because someone said someone said PDT was going to do it.

So does this mean that I'm going to have to study up on all of the new fangled car waxes that just hit the market. I'm thinking a nice Meguires "wet" look wax would be the way to go for a J4J's Corvette....

oh wait silly me I'm not even hired yet, I guess I'll have to show my auto waxing credentials during the interview process........

 

[jrav8tor]

If I had to take a guess I would say 24-36 or longer depending on your DOH, to many different paths this things could take to be accurate on the guess.

Smoke, thanks for a honest answer. Interesting difference from what they told us in interview. It's crazy how things are changing there. It's hard to keep up!

Thanks!