type rating specifics 135.299?

[wannab0133]

I was typed last fall in BE-400A (level D sim at FSI) and the signoffs I have are 135.293a, 135.293b, 135.297, 135.247. No 135.299? It says N/A. Is this because the check was done in level d sim? Or, does this need to be accomplished before I can be designated PIC?

 

[TaxiDriver]

A 135.299 check must be accomplished in an aircraft from Point A to B utilizing the procedures specified in a 135 operator's GOM and Ops Specs. This check is given by an authorized check airman for that specific operator or the FAA. Unlike 135.293 and 297 checks, the 299 check does not give you authorization to fly PIC under Part 135 for any other operator other than the one that conducted the line check.

 

[JumpJetter]

Do you need the 299 check to act as PIC on a Part 91 leg?

 

[wannab0133]

can this check be accomplished in sim at flightsafety? we dont have a check airman except for flight safety.

 

[501261]

can this check be accomplished in sim at flightsafety? we dont have a check airman except for flight safety.

NO, need to be done in the airplane, usually if you don't have a checkairman, your POI will simply come along for a ride and call it a 299 check, needs to be done in the airplane every 12 months.

 

[TaxiDriver]

You do not need a 299 to act as PIC on a Part 91 flight.

 

[cvsfly]

You do not need a 299 to act as PIC on a Part 91 flight.

Or 293 or 297.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

What kind of 135 operation flies jets and doesn't know the requirements to fly them legally. How about a name so I can put them on my do not use list.

 

[wannab0133]

299

well, i found out that since we fly be-400's and kingairs then we only need the 299 signoff on one or the other. it is not aircraft specific. i went to school after flying the kingairs(i already had the 299 signed off) so it was labeled N/A in my flightsafety paperwork.

 

[Otter]

As I believe was mentioned above, neither FlightSafety or Simuflite can accomplish a 135.299 in a sim. Unless ratified in the 135 ARC this check must be accomplished in an aircraft.

 

[Rick1128]

299

The 299 must be done in an aircraft. It is not type specific so it can be done in any type
of aircraft. I have found nothing stating that the 299 is operator specific. However, 293
and 297 checks are operator specific, as you must show that the training they recieved
from the other operator is equal or better than yours in all areas. Which means that they
will not approve the ones from inhouse training programs. And can and do accept Flight
Safety and Simuflite programs. Flight Safety and Simuflite both put N/A in the 299 box on
all 8410s.

There is a great deal of discussion right now on the 135 rewrite to either eliminate the
299 ride or allow a LOFT ride to be used. The 299 ride was originally intended for
scheduled operations till some legal eagle at the FAA came up with a 'bright' idea to get
more flying time.

 

[transpac]

The 299 ride was originally intended for
scheduled operations till some legal eagle at the FAA came up with a 'bright' idea to get
more flying time.

135 line checks were required when I came on the scene over 30 years ago. Also, how does this requirement create more flying time for a FAA "legal eagle"?

 

[400A]

.299

If you had to, most feds will approve the Flight Safety or Simuflite check airmen to do your .299 in the plane.

.299 is not required for #91 ops, you were legal when you left the level D with the type rating.