TSA's new rules for J/S

[V-STALL]

TSA has begun to enforce
a new security procedure that affects all crewmembers. The new
procedure, which went into effect July 10, requires crewmembers
to possess a boarding pass or gate authorization in order to
pass through the security checkpoint at airports that the crewmembers
airline does not serve. If a crewmember wants to jumpseat or
pass travel from an airport not served by the airline the crewmember
will need to proceed to the ticket counter of the airline he
or she will be traveling on to get a boarding pass or gate authorization.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

ABSOLUTE HORS HEET.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

That's all I need. Only a few ATL/JFK direct and now I get to fight the wide loads in line???? Lovely.....

 

[Yahtzee]

Do you have a source for this info? I can't find anything on the TSA website.

You're not making my day.

Yahtz

 

[shon7]

Another idiotic decision by the "Take the Scissors Administration." Knowing that most airlines use vendors to screen boarding passes this will make Jumpseating a bigger nightmare.

 

[stonewall]

Any idea if that applies to cargo guys? I mean, FDX flies into my home airport, but we don't really "serve" that airport. Yeah, this sucks. Offline is already a pain in the a**, and this will make it worse.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Do you have a source for this info? I can't find anything on the TSA website.

You're not making my day.

Yahtz

Got it in a company email. If your airline doesn't serve that particular airport, you have to go to the ticket counter to get a gate pass. I take "serve" to mean you have regular scheduled passenger service out of that airport complete with a gate and fancy signs and (for some) disgruntled gate agents.

Next thing you know they will be arresting pilots for testing under the legal BAC limit...

 

[AA717driver]

Ok. Didn't they start this right after 9/11 and drop it after someone told them it didn't make any sense? TC

 

[ivauir]

Just flew today - no boarding pass, no problem.

Some TSA goon tried to tell me that was coming (about 2 years ago) ... I gave him my nail clippers.

 

[capt. megadeth]

MDW has been doing this for a while now. I never thought I would prefer to J/S out of ORD but I do because of this. I usually go to the ticket counter anyways just in case no matter where I am. It actually alleviates the frustration of getting to the security gate and getting sent back. Capt. Megadeth is getting soft and tired of fighting the fight in her old age.

 

[Roger Murdoch]

I fly for Empire Airlines, a small 121 supplemental for Fed Ex, and I have not had any trouble so far. In fact I believe that this rule has been in effect for quite a while. The only time I was told to go back to the ticket counter was at ORD a year and a half ago. Instead of waiting in line, I just went to another checkpoint and went right through with no trouble. I've even had TSA people ask "Who is Empire?" and then gone right through. Maybe they will start to crack down now but I went through MSP last week with no trouble.

 

[psysicx]

Just go through the first class line.

 

[iflyhigh]

Was at the AWA/US Airways union pilot meeting.

The union rep stated that the TSA was starting to requiring pilots to get a boarding pass if the pilots respective airline did not have service at the particulare airport. Thus offline jumpseating.

After talking to a fellow classmate, beware of LAS. They are enforcing this and going beyond. My classmate was not in uniform, had his AWA / US Airways ID, and security made him to back to the ticket counter and get a boarding pass. AWA is hubbed in LAS, and they would not let him through security without a boarding because he was in casual business dress.

Seems TSA has different interpertation based on the airport.

Iflyhigh

 

[Floatplane]

I wonder how this will apply to FFDO's?

Yet another brilliant move from our government. I believe every pilot in america should write to their elected representatives and voice the displeasure with the TSA and how this policy does not make anyone safer. This is such a complete waste of our tax dollars at work and a complete waste of my time.

 

[Osmosis]

In Omaha, I never had to get a gate pass. The other day, TSA sent me back to ticketing to get one. The ticket counter was reluctant to give me a gate pass because (It wasn't required). I explained that TSA sent me back and are "Now" requiring it. Anyway, as I went through security, TSA then personally escorted me to the gate, and made the gate agent verify I was going to jumpseat on that particular flight. This will get old, fast.

 

[LarryinTN]

This is another reason why I like to jumpseat on SWA. Call and list for the flight then you can print your own security document from the web site.

 

[Gofish]

The really really sad part is a TSA agent makes about 30,000 dollars a year starting out. They get a government backed pension and regular raises. The government pays for their uniforms and they get excellent medical benefits which do not cost them several hundred dollars a month.

The average regional pilot starts out at 20 or 21 bucks an hour which amounts to a 9 or 10 dollar an hour job considering a 72 hour monthly guarantee. Even second year and, in some cases third year pay for newhire first officers (responsible for a 25 million dollar jet full of lives in some of the worst weather imagineable) will be less than a newhire tsa agent makes without an education.

It makes my blood boil every time I think about it.

Enough rant...back to my continuous reserve, extension, and junior manning.

 

[capt. megadeth]

This is another reason why I like to jumpseat on SWA. Call and list for the flight then you can print your own security document from the web site.

Really? Where on the website do you go to do this? I thought you had to be a ticket holder.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Anyway, as I went through security, TSA then personally escorted me to the gate, and made the gate agent verify I was going to jumpseat on that particular flight. This will get old, fast.

Meanwhile, Mohammad Psychopath Atta II is going right on through with his first class boarding pass.

Morons

 

[LarryinTN]

Really? Where on the website do you go to do this? I thought you had to be a ticket holder.

Go to the online check-in page. Scroll down. There's a link for printing a security document.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Remember: As the Israelis say "You look for weapons. We look for terrorists." TSA means Thousands Standing Around

 

[scoreboard]

I don't commute but why why why?? What is the reason for TSA doing this?

 

[JP4user]

I'm sure ALPA will put a stop to this right away!

 

[Lear70]

Go to the online check-in page. Scroll down. There's a link for printing a security document.

That's good stuff right there. List yourself on a flight you have no intention of taking, print the d*mn boarding pass, then just go to whatever gate you originally intended to take.

For every rule they make up, I'll find a way around it if need be. THAT is why the TSA is truly ineffective.

Incidentally, for FFDO's, if you're on mission status commuting, it doesn't affect you.

 

[Bobby Orr 4]

SWA pilots need a boarding pass when jumping on AE/AA out of DFW. It's been that way for a while.

 

[Vastly Underemp]

BOS has been doing this for years. No boarding pass, no security check

 

[gatorbird]

Commute FLL-ATL; FLL has been inconsistent with this for 2 years. Airtran (terminal 3)--no problems, go right through. Delta (terminal 2)--most of the time need a pass, but sometimes you can outsmart them ("But I'm on duty, see, because I'm repositioning..."). Get less of a hassle in uniform than in plain clothes. Surprisingly, ATL has never been a problem.

gator

 

[Headfake14]

Remember: As the Israelis say "You look for weapons. We look for terrorists." TSA means Thousands Standing Around

thats funny.:laugh:

TSA This Sucks Ass



Anyhow...got one of those "fast read" emails from ALPA...says they're working on it. What a stupid thing to impliment.

 

[spacecadet1]

Great tip about going to the SWA web-site for the pass. Out of Manchester, I was told you need a pass to get thru. I jump on United or SWA. I figure that you need to check in anyway, and this puts you on the list. The only pain is if there is a long line.

 

[AAflyer]

SWA pilots need a boarding pass when jumping on AE/AA out of DFW. It's been that way for a while.

Ok,

Just to clarify. Your airline has to serve the airport? If it is in another part of the terminal, in another secured area (ie STL) do you still need a boarding pass? I commute on NWA, however I need to go though security again.

Lastly, it is obviously up to the specific airport how they want to impose the rules?

Thanks,

AA