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EagleRJ

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When are we going to come to our senses and bring the TSA under control before they totally destroy the US airline industry? They seemingly don't answer to anyone in the government right now.
 
**censored****censored****censored****censored** Tsa!!!!
 
Remember, TSA stands for "Totally Senseless Adminstration".

I could start a rant here, but I'll just offer this. How come the TSA treats pilots like terrorists? When I used to commute to work, I once wrote to the TSA to ask how come I can be the "Inflight Security Coordinator" when I'm PIC and yet walk a few feet down the hall to get a jumpseat and suddenly become a security risk? Can't the TSA figure out that airline pilots are indeed airline pilots that went through all sorts of background checks prior to getting company and airport ID's?
 
Standby Double screening anyone???

Is it just me, or have others here experienced the same thing. When you flying as a standby non-rev PAx do you get the regular and then hand screening routine? I do everytime and every airport I have gone through this year...its prined on my pass at the bottom...why the heck is this....do you get the same treatment as an airline employee showing your company ID and Licenses if your out of uniform or in the case of dispatchers, we dont have uniforms....but it would be cool if we did!..black and white hoizontal strips...hehe..

Anyway, I was just wondering if this is the norm now....
 
The problem is that they basically answer to no one. And if anyone questions what they are doing then the questioner is either a security risk or someone who "doesn't care" about the safety of the skies. This is exactly what many were afraid of when it was formed, and now it is coming to pass. The only way that they are going to be brought under control is to innundate your elected reps (DC) with concerns. Encourage everyone you know, because if all the uproar is coming from pilots it probably won't do any good.
 
If you look closely at the non rev agreement on which you are travelling you will probably find that being a Selectee for extra security is a requirement of the standby travel now. This is fairly common. If myself or my wife or son travel on any of the other companies that US Airways has agreements with for non rev we get selected 100% of the time.


rvsm410 said:
Is it just me, or have others here experienced the same thing. When you flying as a standby non-rev PAx do you get the regular and then hand screening routine? I do everytime and every airport I have gone through this year...its prined on my pass at the bottom...why the heck is this....do you get the same treatment as an airline employee showing your company ID and Licenses if your out of uniform or in the case of dispatchers, we dont have uniforms....but it would be cool if we did!..black and white hoizontal strips...hehe..

Anyway, I was just wondering if this is the norm now....
 
Not sure but...

I just flew a four-leg, non-rev trip (with legs on my both own airline and one off-line carrier) with my two kids and we didn't get any secondary screening at all. I think the difference may be timing. I listed us for the entire roundtrip about three days before we started the trip, and luckily the flights I had listed for were still open when we flew so no last-minute changes were made.

I believe the last minute changes (i.e. within 24 hours of the flight) are what triggers the extra screening.
 
I was "selected" everytime I flew out of Denver a couple of years ago. Seems my company would never request my travel more than a day in advance and never a round trip. Last minute + one way = flag = selectee.
 
I got into work this morning and one of the managers in the training department was complaining that they searched him. Former chief pilot and company management now. He said that the airline has to select so many and they prefer to pick standby passengers instead of pissing off rev passengers - just a theory though not fact.
 
Weasil said:
He said that the airline has to select so many and they prefer to pick standby passengers instead of pissing off rev passengers - just a theory though not fact.
Yeah, they prefer to piss off the revenue passengers with the gate agents and the poor service.
 
The Wand Monkeys like selecting crewmembers for the additional "random" screening simply because it makes them feel empowered. There are still far too many screeners who are on power trips and see themselves as cops or something.

The fact that crewmembers are so often selected for random screening shows what an ineffective waste of time this strategy is. Heaven forbid we actually begin picking selectees from high-threat profile passengers. The ACLU would jump into action and return the TSA to wanding the pilots again. Pure window dressing.


Brett Hull said:
The donkey's a male. :D
...and he's starting to get used to his position in this relationship!

The original .gif was animated too, but I removed the animation in the interests of civility.
 
Tsa

T-Too
S-Stupid
for
A-Arby's (no disrespect to Arby's)
It was obvious to anyone with a pulse that TSA was going to be a power hog,especially with 9/11 still fresh in everyone's mind.Legislation based on emotion is bad law indeed.
If you want to get the gomers off your back,bite the bullet and get your FFDO certification.Life now is an effortless swag through the exit line...sign a log...and"poof",you're through the line so fast you have time to point and laugh at your poor crew whose undercarraige is still recieving a little"whose your fathering" from some schmuck TSA screener.
 
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yeah but you gotta lug around a friggin gun. I can't remember where my wallet is half the time...
 

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