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FlyingToIST

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Please read , especially the part about the things that flight training provide should do. In case of a freelence instructor you are screwed with mountain load of paperwork!!!!

http://www.aopa.org/tsa_rule/

Please write to AOPA/your congressman/ who ever.. about how absurd these things are..

Cheers..
 
What fun.

I'm going through this now, since I have a foreign student. The CFI has to sign up on the TSA flight training provider web site (get the link from the AOPA link). Then, the next step is to go down to the FSDO with your picture ID & CFI certificate and get 'validated' by the FSDO. After all of this, the TSA is supposed to send you your password so that you can log onto their web site.
Once you, the CFI, has done all of this, the student can start his fun process.

Oh, and you have to watch the security awareness training on their website and print out the completion certificate.
 
for some reason I am so excited :rolleyes:

is this the same TSA that keeps us so secure that people are able to jump fences and climb in with the landing gear on departing aircraft?

-mini
 
DaveJ said:
I'm going through this now, since I have a foreign student. The CFI has to sign up on the TSA flight training provider web site (get the link from the AOPA link). Then, the next step is to go down to the FSDO with your picture ID & CFI certificate and get 'validated' by the FSDO. After all of this, the TSA is supposed to send you your password so that you can log onto their web site.
Once you, the CFI, has done all of this, the student can start his fun process.

Oh, and you have to watch the security awareness training on their website and print out the completion certificate.
Thanks for the information. I went to the same page, but here are two major problems with it:

1. The page is broken. At the end of the process it produces an error code and doesn't send the approval email to me.

2. I have a special case that I need to register my business , in addition to myself, as the provider of services. Well, I don't know what to put as the certificate number in there , we are Part 61. When I put my CFI number in that field it says that I am already registered.

Once again, government is coming up with grand ideas making the life that is already hard , harder.. I am already looking into Canadian establishments for the people coming from Europe or other parts of the world.
 
The main question I have about all of this is...









Who is that in your avatar, FlyingToIST? :eek:
 
Brett Hull said:
The main question I have about all of this is...

Who is that in your avatar, FlyingToIST? :eek:
Not me, not someone I know, not my wife or g/f (I wish)
She is some girl I found on google, through images tab :)
 
Yeah, the TSA is doing a superb job (sarcasm). Their quick decision on the "preliminary approval" for me a few weeks back had me hoping things had gotten better. They haven't, not by a long shot. I submitted fingerprints last week, after paying $60. Couldn't do it the old fashioned cheap way with Law enforcement, as they refused to send them as "they don't do that". TSA was apparently unaware of this problem. I tracked the fingerprints on Fedex, and they were received and signed for them on Friday morning. Yesterday (Tuesday morning), I called and asked why I haven't received an E-mail confirming the fingerprint delivery that would officially start my 30 day wait period. They couldn't give me a good answer- and said I'd recieve one in a few days. It took the DOJ one week from receipt of the fingerprints to give me final approval. It's taking the TSA the same time just to aknowledge receipt!! Oh, and did I mention I got charged a $130 fee, where as the good 'ole DOJ charged nothing?

If you are a foreigner, or deal with foreign students, get ready for a rough ride.
 
I had to do the background check too, it's a pain. It took me 5 hours to enter all my info, then got the pre-approval. After they received the fingerprints, it took 3-4 weeks for approval; they were having computer problems! For the fingerprints, some law enforcements will do it; it's the big police stations that won't. I went to a small town in the boonies and paid $20 to the local police station, they were super nice. The best is to just start calling the police stations around where you live and go farther and farther until you find one that will accept to receive the cards directly from the training provider.



Now that was for CRJ training but I'm pretty sure the process is the same for small aircraft training! Now I'm really wondering if renewing my CFI is worth it; that surely doesn't make me want to instruct anymore...



Buck
 
For last two days this is what I have been getting.. Guess they will have to hire my firm to get their IT things straight :D

On-Line Account Request Submission

The following information has been submitted for your Account:

Name : Name Name Name
Userid : userid

Phone : xxxyyyxxyy

Email : [email protected]

FSDO Office :


ACCTADMIN.SubmittedReq : System was unable to process the request. Please try again; if the problem remains, THEN contact your system administrator. ORA-00001: unique constraint (AFSP_SCHEMA.ACCT_REQ_UK) violated
 

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