TSA just made commuting more fun

[cobalt]

Change in Security Checkpoint Procedures Earlier today we learned that the TSA will begin enforcement of a new security procedure starting Monday, July 10 that will impact all crewmembers. The new procedure requires crewmembers to possess a boarding pass or gate authorization in order to pass through the security checkpoint at airports that the crewmembers’ airline does not serve. If a crewmember wants to jumpseat or pass travel from an airport not served by the airline the crewmember will need to proceed to the ticket counter of the airline he or she will be traveling on to get a boarding pass or gate authorization.


Starting on Monday, July 10, please allow ample time to facilitate check-in at the ticket counter before proceeding to the gate at stations you do not serve. As with any new security procedure, initial enforcement may be confusing and inconsistent. Please be patient and remain professional as we work through this transition period.

 

[GCD]

This has already been in effect for about four years in most US international airports. I can attest to CVG, JFK, MIA, ATL, and DFW.

 

[mckpickle]

This has already been in effect for about four years in most US international airports. I can attest to CVG, JFK, MIA, ATL, and DFW.

If so than the local TSA has not been enforcing this properly. There was an exemption to this rule that is expiring on monday. The rule is being renewed but not the exemption.

 

[SKYW Pilot]

Darn glad Skywest serves a buttload of airports. Typical TSA. Bunch of bull!

 

[SXMp2c]

FLAME

The TSA's policy was, is, and will remain to allow all 121 carriers with id to pass through security.

Sometimes there is a problem with the ID checkers at the front of the line... FLL comes to mind. But if you talk to ANY 3 striper (tsa manager) he/she will tell you this.


NICE TRY COBALT

 

[cobalt]

FLAME

The TSA's policy was, is, and will remain to allow all 121 carriers with id to pass through security.

Sometimes there is a problem with the ID checkers at the front of the line... FLL comes to mind. But if you talk to ANY 3 striper (tsa manager) he/she will tell you this.


NICE TRY COBALT

i hope you are right, but this memo is straight from the union, and the company.

you think i'd make it up..... geez.... get a life.

 

[Sky Jet]

FLAME, NOT.

I have in my in box memos from ALPA national and my J/S chairman warning of this. And why would you think anyone would make this up? Is the whump whump from the black helos hovering over your house starting to get to you?

Jet

 

[chperplt]

FLAME

The TSA's policy was, is, and will remain to allow all 121 carriers with id to pass through security.

Sometimes there is a problem with the ID checkers at the front of the line... FLL comes to mind. But if you talk to ANY 3 striper (tsa manager) he/she will tell you this.


NICE TRY COBALT

Why do people who don't have a clue write this crap???? FLAME... How the heck do you know what the TSA or any other organization is or is not going to do??

The fact is, the TSAs new policy IS to require a boarding/gate pass for ANY crew member who's airline does NOT fly into the airport you're commuting out of. The rule, albeit completely idiotic, is to make life easier for the $5 an hour morons checking your ID before you get to the TSA.

 

[surfnfly]

Try and get to a gate in MCO that your airline is not in the same concourse and you will be directed to the ticket counter. I have had this happen several times, once I even stopped to ask a delta ticket agent and he said i didn't need one only to be denied at security and had to go back. This has been in place at MCO since 9/11.

 

[punkpilot48]

Try and get to a gate in MCO that your airline is not in the same concourse and you will be directed to the ticket counter. I have had this happen several times, once I even stopped to ask a delta ticket agent and he said i didn't need one only to be denied at security and had to go back. This has been in place at MCO since 9/11.

I never had a problem with my trans states ID. And they had never flown in there.

 

[Candlerman]

I've been informed of the same thing.

Does anybody know of an easy way around waiting in line at the ticket counter?

Are there any airlines where you could list over the phone, get a confirmation # then get a ticket or seat request through the kiosk? I've tried this on AA but the kiosk prints out a pass that states "this is not a ticket, see ticket agent" (or something like that).

Heck, I'm wondering if it might even be worth buying a fully refundable ticket, printing out a pass at home, go through security, then call up and cancel your ticket. Just trying to think outside the box on this one cause its gonna suck.

In the mean time, I guess I'll go through the ticket counters to find the airline with the shortest line and have them spit a pass out for me. What a waste of everyones time.

 

[jetfo]

Try and get to a gate in MCO that your airline is not in the same concourse and you will be directed to the ticket counter. I have had this happen several times, once I even stopped to ask a delta ticket agent and he said i didn't need one only to be denied at security and had to go back. This has been in place at MCO since 9/11.

Happened to me in TPA.

It was extremely frustrating and stupid when I tried to get a jumseat on two different airlines and tried to gate list for both jumpseats.

That's what happens when you let idiots make the rules!

 

[J32driver]

Thats ok. I've been getting lots of practice at this game since I have to ride AA to and from work. In the last month I've logged almost 6 hours standing in line at the ticket counter. Longest wait so far was 1:15!

On the upside, the AA crews always treat me like gold. Thanks for the rides guys!

 

[relief tube]

That's complete bull********************. Commutings enough of a pain in the ass.

Think a petition should be started, JS coordinators should all unite, and go from there. The rent-a-cops dont realize that our badges signify a 10-year background check.

 

[Jester1092]

That's complete bull********************. Commutings enough of a pain in the ass.

Think a petition should be started, JS coordinators should all unite, and go from there. The rent-a-cops dont realize that our badges signify a 10-year background check.

I'm with you on that one... if we allow it to happen then what's next..? We'll need boarding cards for all airports or something queer like that. It's getting outta control! The uneducated idiots get off on dicking us (flight crews) over.

 

[check6]

TSA dropped my laptop today.

 

[Candlerman]

Bump

Anyone have issues with this today???? I'm commuting tomorrow and want to know what to expect.

 

[DoinTime]

Commutings enough of a pain in the ass.

Just wait until the IRS starts viewing your "free" ride to work as imputed income and taxing you for it. That will add an entirely new dimension onto how bad commuting sucks.

 

[pilotshan]

I'm with you on that one... if we allow it to happen then what's next..? We'll need boarding cards for all airports or something queer like that. It's getting outta control! The uneducated idiots get off on dicking us (flight crews) over.

A couple weeks ago I was going home (out of uniform) and the rent-a-cop made me get a boarding pass. Apparently my AOA badge for that airport along with my crew ID for that airline wasn't enough to clear security without a boarding pass. When I asked the TSA dude for a second opinion, he told me all I needed was my AOA badge, but I had to get past the rent-a-cop first.

 

[TSA145]

Anyone have issues with this today???? I'm commuting tomorrow and want to know what to expect.

I had to get one today....

 

[ReverseSensing]

This is a complete over-reaction on TSA's part. It's not as if we are somehow bypassing security (unless we have a SIDA badge for that airport) to get to the gate. Don't they remember just a few years ago anyone could go through security to the gate? Complete control of access to the ramp and the aircraft, fine. Full screening of those seeking access to the concourses, find. Restrictions on screened, credentialed crew member access to the concourses, utterly pointless.

The change in procedure to limit the concourses to ticketed pax probably made sense simply to reduce the volume of screening required, but for crap's sake, letting a few properly credentialed crew members through to the gate is not a screening burden, not a security risk, and TSA should give it a rest and get back to harassing old women and children.

Thank goodness I rarely have to deal with TSA, unless you count the Canadian version of it.

 

[SYX328]

Never been turned away even in MCO. Get waved right thru even in Civilian clothes.

 

[ReportCanoa]

Just wait until the IRS starts viewing your "free" ride to work as imputed income and taxing you for it. That will add an entirely new dimension onto how bad commuting sucks.

Has there been recent discussion of this? I remember some talk of it a while ago, but if this becomes a reality, I'm getting out of this industry.

 

[TCBKING]

SCREW THIS..FFDO TRAINING HERE I COME. :uzi:

I got a new Avatar coming for this BS........................

F[EMAIL="F$%#@!#*&%$"]$%#@!#*&%$#K[/EMAIL] TSA.

 

[TR4A]

You guys need to CLICK HERE

 

[SYX328]

And now click here:


http://tsagov.edgesuite.net/who_we_are/index.shtm


Check out the picture of this wonderful group.

 

[Prop2Jet]

I Will Be Very Blunt Even If It Gets Me Booted!!!!!

B(F)UCK YOU Tsa~ You Worthless Sect Of Government SHYT.
We Used To Make Fun Of You Dorks In The Pentagon! Wanna Be Cops Who Could Not Get In To The Academy. You Renta-cop Uneducated Draw On My Tax Dollars Scumbags....

 

[belchfire]

It would be really easy to fix this. It's our butts out there, not the fracking TSA's. They can either stop flipping uniformed crewmembers sheite in security and start profiling members of know terrorist ethnicity or the planes don't move.

Very fracking simple. This is our industry, not theirs and it is time for us to start calling some of the shots.

 

[Bluestreak]

It would be really easy to fix this. It's our butts out there, not the fracking TSA's. They can either stop flipping uniformed crewmembers sheite in security and start profiling members of know terrorist ethnicity or the planes don't move.

Very fracking simple. This is our industry, not theirs and it is time for us to start calling some of the shots.

Yes,you are correct.These incompetent morons are obviously grasping at straws.I suggest ALPA/Teamsters/SWAPA,etc. have a "Security Stand down" Labor Day weekend-nothing flies until this crap is fixed.

 

[Dep676]

This has already been in effect for about four years in most US international airports. I can attest to CVG, JFK, MIA, ATL, and DFW.

I do not know about that statement. I work for a fractional and anytime that I have am in uniform they have not even looked at my boarding pass or even ask for it and I always have one. They look surprised when I show it to them. I have been through CVG, ATL and DFW recently and that was the case.