TSA begins testing pilots-only security lines

[B19 Flyer]

Are you B19 in disguise again? Most of us came from 121 backgrounds, and many were former military with very high security clearances. All of us had to go through high level background checks at our present company due to the nature of out clientelle, like embassadors, senators, governors, former and future presidents, etc.

As far as being treated better then the common pax, you bet. Paying over $500 for one way (eg. ICT-ORD-CMH last tour) should get some extra consideration. We pay a great deal for the "benefit" of riding in a cattle car. What's wrong with a little professional courtesy?

Please don't misunderstand me, but is this is an example of career envy? Mainline/121 folks trying to hold on to some semblence of dignity and pride in an otherwise collapsing industry where the bosses and the customers both look down on you?

It wasn't too long ago that pilots used to rib each other and their companies in jest. Now we are all at each others' throats. Are we going to let those that are trying to delegate us to the janatorial level (management and union busting legal firms) further divide us?

Sucks to be you-for now. How long before it sucks to be me? Only difference is I and many others hope for the best for all pilots, not just a few that meet your criteria for "professional".

As all of you are cockpit lawyers let me give you a little "regulatory" help. (again)

Order 8000.356 is the notice that outlines the specifics of jumpseat authorization, A048 and CASS.

Rather then have me quote it, I'm going to sit back, let you find it and watch what y'all come up with.

I know the answer to all the questions here, but it's a lot more fun to watch all of you interpret the document.

Hey y'all, watch this!

 

[AirplanesSuck]

There must be several different factions of pilots at NJA!! Its hard to keep up with you guys!!

Rez, I've read a lot of your posts on this thread. As usual, there will always be a few people who post things that are certainly not representative of the feelings of a group of which they are members.

NJA has nearly 3000 pilots. I doubt all of the opinions are represented accurately on FI.com.

As for the crew line stuff (I'm not NJA, but I do kinda what they do), I use it. Only so I can carry my toiletries on board, though. If they would let me do that in the "regular pax" line, I would. Many of the checkpoints do, but some don't. So I don't risk getting messed with. We go through the same TSA checks as 121 guys, so I don't see why they'd have a problem with it. Maybe I should politick a little.

Thanks for the rides, anyway!

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

I cannot imagine that anyone in the frax wouldn't enjoy the opty to help out some commuting 121 guy -- even if he/she helped themselves to some (previously organized) stock. More than welcome on my boat.

The fact is that we are relatively unscheduled, and cannot reciprocate in kind.

That being said, I actually prefer to travel as a regular passenger. I don't know why so many frax guys are preoccupied with this travel-in-uniform thing. I prefer incognito. It's a hoot to spend my first and last 2 - 4 hours "on duty" wearing a Hawaiian shirt and flip-flops. If all I have to do is bag my personal lubricants, then it's a small price to pay.

 

[CX880]

We do... We just want the only thing left that even remotely resembles a benefit you have:

A free pass through security and a free ride on the jumpseat. Is that too much to ask?

Bwahaa....

Wolfpackpilot, are you one of those guys who was hired at NJ back when it was the place to go when you couldn't find a job? Now you're the man. Get off your high horse, I've read some of your other posts. You can have what little benefits I have when I can fly from LA to Las Vegas on your GV.

 

[glasspilot]

Ya'll say what you want, but if I'm on the ramp and some 121 pilot wants a ride on a dead leg then he better wake up from his snooze in the quiet room, fill up his free coffee, get a free shoe shine, use the free Scope and whatever else and hurry out. I'll take him. The only problem is the 121 guy has no idea where I'm going as we're non-scheduled.

That's the thing. All us fracs know our sched (more or less) a day before. Why can't some computer geek figure out a way to get that info out on the web. If the 121 guys knew our dead legs then we could "reciprocate". Then all problems would be solved!

Okay computer geeks. Get to work. Figure out a protocol or whatever you need to make it happen.

 

[gutshotdraw]

There isn't a computer geek alive who can create a program that can anticipate the vagaries of a scheduler's evil plan....uke:

 

[glasspilot]

What ever,


From the post it was stated that there was one last revenue pax as they were closing the door, so a legitimate jumpseater theory is out. I agree that if there was then they would be entitled first.

Also, I seriously doubt SWA comped back the ticket for the pilot who sat in the jumpseat. Even if they did and that ticket could be reused over the next 12 months it's still not a loss of revenue as odds are the ticket A. won't be used (80% of comp tickets are not redeemed) and B. SWA still pushed a flight with 100% sold. the redemption flight is likely to be on a flight with an empty seat anyway.

 

[glasspilot]

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