Trying to find multi-engine aircraft owners

[jergar999]

I found the thread where I posted a copy of the letter:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=24369

 

[Lead Sled]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, I did something similar. I wrote the letter and mailed it out. I only got one response, but it resulted in a great relationship - I flew part-time for the company for 5 years. After I left to move on to greener pastures, I got phone calls and inquiries from them for nearly 3 years making sure that I was happy at my new job and offering me a position full-time if I ever wanted to move back. Don't expect the whole world to come knocking at your door; but remember, all it takes is one.

'Sled

 

[float-flyer]

RefugePilot

Check your PM

 

[Medicryan]

Forgive me if I am wrong, but wouldn't that be illegal since you cannot advertise yourself as a commercial pilot.

 

[float-flyer]

Forgive me if I am wrong, but wouldn't that be illegal since you cannot advertise yourself as a commercial pilot.

Where does it say "you can't advertise yourself" as a commercial pilot?

 

[jergar999]

You can't hold out, which is a whole other topic altogether, but you can certainly offer your services for compensation. If I used the company airplane and charged random people for seats that I had advertised at a certain price then that would be holding out, which would require a Operating Certificate and Operating Specifications under 14 CFR Part 121,125, or 135.

 

[icefr8dawg]

Being an owner I get lots of requests from folks to fly with me, rent the plane (an aztec and a j-3) share time, instruct, etc. The biggest problem I have with others flying the twin is that it just costs an enormous amount of money to maintain and things tend to break when it's flown a lot. I use it a couple of times a month for the usual little trips and even then I get the occasional busted starter, cracked exhaust or avionics screwup. It just costs so much money to fix things that the couple hundred bucks from renting the plane isn't worth the expense of repairing the common breakage items. This is what you'll be running up against.
I think you'll have more luck with folks that are having trouble affording their twin but want to take the pilot type trips to Oshkosh or Sun 'n fun, split expenses and be happy about it. Weekend lunch trips etc. I believe EAA has a share a ride section on their website.

 

[AWACO]

This could be huge for those of you needing multi time

 

[pgcfii2002]

Try Ameriflight out of BUR and OAK.....

 

[Lead Sled]

This could be huge for those of you needing multi time

Probably not. You've got to have something to offer. If you simply hope to find someone who will let you ride a long and log the time you'll probably be dissappointed. Like I said earlier, don't expect the whole world to come knocking at your door...but, if you've got some experience and can find the right set of circumstances it could work for you.

'Sled

 

[NuGuy]

Forgive me if I am wrong, but wouldn't that be illegal since you cannot advertise yourself as a commercial pilot.

Whoa there chief. I think you have your concepts mixed up a bit.

Under part 91, you cannot "hold out" in providing transportation. Totally different story for pilot services.

Nu

 

[blackbox]

refugee, i got a buddy in socal who own a twin. he is always looking to split time with someone. If you are interested in coming to Southern california for it, PM your info and I will pass it along to him.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

Just thought I would update you, Amigos down at HRL has placed an add as of today looking for pilots. You already meet 135 mins., so you qualify. Said they were looking for Cessna 400 series drivers. They have a 401s and 402s, as well as a 421. The add also mentioned that they were looking for a King Air FO.

Good luck.

 

[RefugePilot]

Thanks Lear Wanna be

Even before I saw your post, I had faxed them a resume today as I was going through all my old leads.

An update on the looking for twin owners thread.

Using the FAA data base I have found tons of twin owners. I had sent out 41 letters probably 2 weeks ago. I got a call two days ago from someone that needs help breaking in and getting current in his C310 . I also will be able to fly with him on his long business trips. Sure beats paying for twin time. Anyone want to tell me how to fly a 310? I am researching the plane before I get in it. I am hoping to get some more multi time before I start applying and interviewing.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

What model? R or Q, or something older?

 

[RefugePilot]

C310 Q

He has a 310Q with a brand new engine.

Looking for suggestions on the fuel management, and any info on systems.

Thanks

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

He has a 310Q with a brand new engine.

Looking for suggestions on the fuel management, and any info on systems.

Thanks

I will PM you. Might take awhile to get it all down. Great airplanes.

 

[Joshrk22]

So you are just mailing people that own a twin in your area? I had an idea like this but I wasn't sure many people would go for it because of obvious reasons like being strangers for one, or insurance. Do you think these private owners would really go for it? If you think so I'm going to give this idea a try after I get my PPL. This could be a very inexpensive way to log some ME time. You could do this for any aircraft I'm guessing. I'm going to mail some SE pilots and ask if I can fly with them for the he// of it. Good idea or no?

 

[fatdumbandhappy]

Instructing is scary stuff. Even more scary when your name is in somebody's logbook, but you are not in the plane if they screw up. I know plenty of guys that have had the Feds come a calling long after the last time they flew with whomever screwed up. You are on the hook for 2 years if you sign somebody's BFR off. I'm going to have a nightmare tonight just thinking about it.

When I sign a BFR I make sure you cannot read my name or CFI# (write really small and sloppy)

 

[RefugePilot]

yea just that easy

So you are just mailing people that own a twin in your area? I had an idea like this but I wasn't sure many people would go for it because of obvious reasons like being strangers for one, or insurance. Do you think these private owners would really go for it? If you think so I'm going to give this idea a try after I get my PPL. This could be a very inexpensive way to log some ME time. You could do this for any aircraft I'm guessing. I'm going to mail some SE pilots and ask if I can fly with them for the he// of it. Good idea or no?

After 5 years of aviation, including 3 as an instructor. I am now scouring the county looking for anyone with a twin who will let a low multi-time MEI ride along in exchange for my expertise as an instructor.

What I am really doing is offering my services for free in exchange for logging time in their plane, which would cost me between 80 and 200 dollars/hour if I had to pay for it. Even with my generous offer I have only one taker So far, which is all I need. I am still looking for more though. Once I have some more time in a twin, I will send out my resume to the same people looking for work.

I dont think the "Hi I'm a newly minted pilot, will you take me up in your plane" letter would get the same overwhelming response I have gotten. Plus you cant log it unless the other person is an CFI, and the last thing an instructor wants to do on their day off is teach.

You are better off getting a job at an FBO and offer to wash as many airplanes as you can. Its all about the networking. Since I am new to this area, I am networking through the FAA database and a mailing, next will come the cold calls.

"Yes may I speak to the twin engined aircraft owner of the house. Let me tell you about the exciting offer I have for you."