Truth about Lynx?

[ViperKK]

couple of my old fo's are flying there now. it can't be bad as they say, can it?

no cancellation pay unless you drop below guarantee, then it's really just them paying guarantee. pilot pay is pathetic, ((second year fo pay is $TWENTY THREE$ an hour. health insurance if you have kids will set you back almost $FIVE HUNDRED$ a month. ((for the fo's, that one full paycheck)) junior asst almost every day. oh and the best part is that managment changes the work rules almost daily. ((no contract, lots of reinterpretation)) new hires are signing twoyear training contracts. ((they will make almost as much as the contract their second year))

$$FORTY THOUSAND$$ a year for a seventy four seat captain.
$$SEVENTEEN THOUSAND$$ a year for a first. is this a joke really?

i wonder when people will leave to go find something better.

move over mesa, it sounds to me like the new bottom feeder is in town.

to my fo's, get out if you still can.

 

[GOULET!]

I know very little about Lynx so Im not going to pretend like I do, however most people today are going for the quick upgrade and not the pay. Their pay scale is absolutely pathetic though.

 

[cale42]

Not sure who your hearing from Viper but it really isn't that bad.

The payrates are an issue.. everyone knows it..

However the schedules are ok, next month I have 14 off.. sat, sun, mon off every week.. blocking the in the mid 80's.. 22 nights at home. Plus block or better.. which is nice waiting in line for de-ice in DEN

I've been online for over 2 months and never been JA'ed, and we do get JA pay now 150%.

Cancellation pay hasn't been a big deal because F9 management is obsessed with completion percents.. we are in the high 90's for completion(not controllable.. just completion in general). I've not had a flight cancelled yet, but as we go the mountains this may become a bigger issue.

And as GOULET pointed out upgrades matter.. 12 FO's will be awareded CA this week making the upgrade time around 9 months currently.

I don't have kids but health insurance for a single male is on par with any other decent company that I know of. Rates are high these days.. thats not unique to any company.

Like any startup there is lots of room for improvement, and yes the changing rules can be frustrating, however so far every single work rule change has been beneficial to the pilots.

I can say WITHOUT QUESTION, Lynx is much better than Mesa, b/c thats where I came from. We may not be Skywest or RAH, but we are certainly not Mesa..

cale

 

[XPOO]

Damn, I thought this thread was going to be about golf clubs.

 

[cale42]

It's FI.. give it a few minutes and a well timed post and it WILL be about golf clubs..

 

[Capi_Cafre']

With the Q400 starting to catch on it's important to the industry to have the "bottom" rates for the type set absurdly low. That's the "truth" about Lynx. On the other hand you've got the first, and for quite a few years, the only operator, Horizon currently in negotiations with most of their folks making almost twice what their counterparts at Lynx are getting. I'm told by friends there that the new catch phrase is "airline services company" which makes it likely that at some point they'll be hearing "why should we pay you a hundred when Joe Blow will do it for fifty?"

Horizon has the only contract in the pax industry to survive the 9/11 era intact. Now that compensation is being driven by the bottom it's a problem when the best-compensated pilots in a type are working for a profitable company. It's in every airline's interest to see them crushed, and if recent history is any indication they shouldn't count on too much help from pilots at other carriers.

 

[tico]

Why is Lynx being called a start-up. How long has Frontier been in business. It is an airline being run by an airline so all the rhetoric about start-up is just that....It seems that maybe the compass/nwa deal is how an airline starts an airline....I dont know that but I am sure that they have had a union from day one as Lynx should have had as well. What happened to the frontier pilots on this one. It seems that as a union they could have flexed their influence and assured that Lynx was union as well.

 

[Raskal]

Why is Lynx being called a start-up. How long has Frontier been in business. It is an airline being run by an airline so all the rhetoric about start-up is just that....It seems that maybe the compass/nwa deal is how an airline starts an airline....I dont know that but I am sure that they have had a union from day one as Lynx should have had as well. What happened to the frontier pilots on this one. It seems that as a union they could have flexed their influence and assured that Lynx was union as well.

It's a good point. Compass is rep'd by the NWA mainline MEC (not sure if that's a good thing or not, you'd have to ask a compass guy) and had representation from day one. Where were the mainline reps in this whole Lynx venture?

 

[siucavflight]

Cale, you should learn that you can not confuse us here on FI with facts. We would rather post about what our friends neighbor heard about Lynx. Hearing it from someone who works there is not helpful.

 

[cale42]

I don't know the exact details but there is a grace period on a new certification before they can have union representation.. 1 year I believe.

Compass bought the old Independence Air cert.. so the rules were a lot different..

Most F9 pilots are actively interested in how Lynx pilots are being treated and handled, but there is not a lot they can currently do.

This is my understanding of the union rules.. however maybe someone can explain it more thoroughly..

cale