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Jury: Airline Not Liable for Racist Rhyme

.c The Associated Press

KANSAS CITY, Kan. (AP) - Southwest Airlines is not liable for a flight attendant who upset two black passengers by using a version of a rhyme with a racist history, a jury determined Wednesday.

The two passengers, sisters Louise Sawyer and Grace Fuller, were heading home from a Las Vegas vacation nearly three years ago when flight attendant Jennifer Cundiff, trying to get passengers to sit down, said over the intercom, ``Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; pick a seat, we gotta go.''

The sisters say the rhyme was directed at them and was a reference to a racist version that dates to before the civil rights era: ``Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; catch a n----- by his toe.''

The sisters filed a federal lawsuit against the airline claiming they were discriminated against and suffered physical and emotional distress. Judge Kathryn H. Vratil ruled last year that the case could proceed to trial, and it began on Tuesday before an eight-member jury.

The jury returned its verdict in favor of the airline Wednesday evening.

Attorney Scott A. Wissel, representing the two women, said in his opening statement that they were humiliated and degraded when Cundiff used the phrase, and decided to sue out of frustration after Southwest Airlines would not take their complaint seriously.

Cundiff, who is white, testified that she had used the rhyme before on other flights. She said Southwest Airlines encourages employees to use humor to help make flights more fun and memorable.

She testified that she was confused why someone would complain about the rhyme. It was not until later that she learned about the racist version, she said.
 
OMG!!!! There is hope, there is still at least one smart judge left!! Woohoo!!
 
FWIW, UAL would have settled for 5 million each and instituted a company-wide "sensity" training program. Other banned rhymes would include "three blind mice" (disparages farmers wives) and "ring around the rosies" (black death...)


"It was not until later that she learned about the racist version, she said."

right....sure....:rolleyes: ;) , right after she fell off the turnip truck....
 
No turnip truck

I consider myself worldly and aware of historical precedence and I was not aware of that connotation myself. I definitely would not have thought of it before serenading the pax. I can't even believe it went to trial.
 
Loser pays system!

More reason we need a Loser Pays system. Now that these sisters have brought about this frivilous lawsuit, shouldn't they be required to reimburse SWA for the cost of defending against such horseshi+. Well, in a "loser pays" system they would be required to do just that! Works well in the UK. Why not here? Trial lawyers, that's why.

FWIW, SWA execs in DAL said they would NOT settle this one out of court because they felt the employee did nothing wrong, mean spirited, or out of malice or contempt for minorities. So SWA said, "Bring it on!"
 
Re: No turnip truck

tkr-toad said:
I consider myself worldly and aware of historical precedence and I was not aware of that connotation myself. I definitely would not have thought of it before serenading the pax. I can't even believe it went to trial.

You must not-of done UPT at columbus.... I agree with the point though.. "Catch a tiger" seems to be the modern PC version. How about the "monkeys jumping on the bed" song? It also has a VERY un-pc version.
 
Haven't heard that one either

Gee, and I thought that growing up in L.A. and UPT in Phoenix would keep me from being sheltered but apparently that's not the case.
 
More kids ryhmes

Three blind mice is supposedly about castration... ouch!

We all know that ring around the rosie is about the bubonic plague. But did you know that the verses are about certain gruesome aspects of "black death." For example, "ring around the rosie" is the rash that people infected with the disease would develop on their skin. A "pocket full of posies" were the flowers people would carry with them to ward off the evil spirits which would make you sick. "Ashes, ashes" were falling all over Europe as bodies were burned in the streets. They ran out of graveyard plots. And "We all fall down" simply means we're dead.

Of course that's one version... click here for another version and history: http://www.famousquotes.me.uk/nursery_rhymes/ring_a_ring_o_rosies.htm

There's more at the famousquotes website. You can read about how "Humpty Dumpty" is about an cannon which fell from a wall and couldn't be replaced. Also how "Jack and Jill" is about the beheading of King Louis XVI and Queen Marie Antoinette. Makes for interesting reading. Beats surfing for porn... well that's another debate!:D
 
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Sounds interesting

I'm familiar with the ring/rosie history but that other stuff I'll have to check out - that's what the web is best for (aside from Flightinfo, of course!) Thanks for the link.
 

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