Trimming the Rudder during a V1 Cut

[Patriot328]

In the Dorkjet, if you don't have that rudder trimmed (or close to it) by the time you hit 160kts, you're going to be in a world of hurt (this is in the sim, mind you. I have heard that a failure in the plane isn't quite as dramatic).

The dornier has a rudder tab that is engaged below 160kts to make it easy to push on the rudder. Above 160kts, the servo-tab is locked out and it takes a LOT more pressure to move the rudder (to prevent you from snapping it off at those mind-blowing cruise speeds we acheive).

My personal preference... stomp on it.. on the (very short) climb to acceleration altitude, trim that bad-boy out.

 

[mar]

Another one of my pet peeves

Man-oh-man I hope the Fed in the original question looses this argument.

It really irritates me when people can't differentiate between *technique* and *procedure*.

An incorrectly performed procedure deserves to be called out but give me a break...if someone has a different technique and no parameters are busted then who cares?

By the way, I was trained in the Metro to get things settled down and then *ask the NFP* to roll in the appropriate trim (all the aileron trim and 'one swipe' of rudder trim worked nicely).

Personally I always waited until acceleration altitude and completed all memory items before I even thought about trim but I'd never bug somebody about their use of trim if the airplane was still under control.

Fly safe

 

[AK737FO]

Fly the Airplane

Fly the airplane, climb out, clean up and when you get it all corralled feed in the trim. I have never seen anyone around here do anything different. My personal cue on remembering the rudder trim is when I feel my leg start to burn about 5 minutes after the V1 cut.

 

[Dieterly]

Here is even a better tip, at least for the busdrivers: Start feeding in trim as soon you get airborne (takes about 7 seconds to get the right amount of trim in on the -330), then slap an a/p on, this makes life a lot easier after you have lost a donk.

 

[avbug]

Lost a donk?

 

[A Squared]

Hmmm..... deiterly must be from Oz.

IN Australian slang (and perhaps other places) an engine is a "donkey" or "donk"

 

[avbug]

It's true! We really do learn something new every day.

I lived over there for two years, and never heard that term. Probably just didn't make it to rural Queensland. Of course, what they called a "roo" in Sidney, we still called "one of those big hairy things with the big feet and thick tail that hops really fast."

 

[Dieterly]

Not from Aus. First time I heard "lost a donk" was back in -94 with Mesa. I guess you learn something everyday, thanks.