Travel Management pilots, good job.

[acaTerry]

Good job guys...except 57 of you.

 

[windshear73]

http://teamster.org/news/2014/12/travel-management-company-pilots-vote-join-teamsters

 

[shanes123]

57 must of liked the crappy schedule and pay. Amazing!!!

 

[jetwash]

Congrats, now the work begins and it is worth it.

 

[AftCG182]

57 must of liked the crappy schedule and pay. Amazing!!!

Amazing, isn't it? You'd expect a few self-serving brown nosers to vote no, but 57?

It kinda speaks to why this place has continued to operate under these conditions for so long. I think it's because so many people come here from s-bag mom & pop Operators with no pay and a couple of hard days per month. They get a few extra dollars and 13 hard days off per month and they think they've hit the lottery. So what if it comes at the expense of their dignity and professional self-worth. NOT! Time to wake up, folks.

The alarm clock has rung!

 

[shanes123]

AFT..Think you nailed it..A couple Brown nosers and the rest think they got it good compared to the last ********************hole they worked at ..Glad you guys did it. Just remember all the issues are not going away. But there will be less stress and more security, and hopefully a pay raise

 

[realityman]

Good luck to you folks! You've taken the first big step towards improving your conditions and compensation.

As others have said, this is not going to be a smooth road. You've chosen dignity and respect, but you now have to FIGHT for it!

The "Union" is each and every one of YOU, not just whoever ends up being your leadership. As soon as you forget this you will fail. So get involved and stay involved. Participate in what your leadership asks you to do, even if you may not agree with it.

And remember, a union simply can't/won't solve every single problem you may have with your company. They never have, never will. In truth, choosing a union is a bit of choosing the lesser of two evils. But in the end, the union will be the only thing looking to make things better for you. If management was going to do it, they would have done so already and negated the need for a union.

Stand by for a whole lot of misdirection, threats, and flat out lies coming from management. And know that most if us are pulling for you. Please reach out to NJASAP for guidance and advice if you need it. Look for experienced union people wherever you can find them, whether it's from your own ranks or others (like any of the other unions, or labor attorneys, or outside consultants).

Good luck! Let's pull this industry up to where it should be!

 

[1folinepilot]

Will the Travel Management Pilots be required to pay dues from Dec 22, 2014 when they voted for representation, or were they lied to and told that they would not be required to pay dues till their contract is ratified?

A simple honest statement of fact from their leadership now will build trust

 

[Downwind]

Congrats guys!!

 

[tk855]

Will the Travel Management Pilots be required to pay dues from Dec 22, 2014 when they voted for representation, or were they lied to and told that they would not be required to pay dues till their contract is ratified?

A simple honest statement of fact from their leadership now will build trust

One of the 57 I presume???

 

[doh]

One of the 57 I presume???

Presumption ain't in it.

 

[1folinepilot]

One of the 57 I presume???

Instead of talking smack, how about answering the question. When will the Travel Management Pilots be required to pay dues?

 

[jravi8tor]

Dues may be paid voluntarily 60 days after the date of the election but are required after the CBA is ratified. If one wants to remain a member in good standing with the union those past dues must be paid after the CBA is signed.

 

[1folinepilot]

Dues may be paid voluntarily 60 days after the date of the election but are required after the CBA is ratified. If one wants to remain a member in good standing with the union those past dues must be paid after the CBA is signed.

The past due amount you are referring to is the amount acrued 60 days of contract signing till CBA ratification?

Has this been clearly explained to every Travel Management Pilot?

 

[jravi8tor]

The past due amount you are referring to is the amount acrued 60 days of contract signing till CBA ratification?

Has this been clearly explained to every Travel Management Pilot?

It has been explained a few times in detail. It's also been explained with regard to running for Union positions on the MEC. Only members in good standing are eligible candidates.

 

[windshear73]

Will the Travel Management Pilots be required to pay dues from Dec 22, 2014 when they voted for representation, or were they lied to and told that they would not be required to pay dues till their contract is ratified?

A simple honest statement of fact from their leadership now will build trust

Per the 1108 Bylaws, I believe dues are a requirement starting 60 days after a successful election. I haven't been lied to, and I'm not sure what you're getting at with your post. Negotiations cost money, and dues are where those funds come from. It's not rocket science.

 

[doh]

Will the Travel Management Pilots be required to pay dues from Dec 22, 2014 when they voted for representation, or were they lied to and told that they would not be required to pay dues till their contract is ratified?

A simple honest statement of fact from their leadership now will build trust

The IBT are far from perfect. That has been stated many times before, but they can't lie to you. Their bylaws are so widely available, if you dont know the timing of dues collection, it is willful ignorance. If you have an important vote like this one and you let either management or someone's friend's butcher's hairdresser tell you what is what, then you are an idiot...or a tool. Either way, you ain't doing too well at the moment.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Per the 1108 Bylaws, I believe dues are a requirement starting 60 days after a successful election. I haven't been lied to, and I'm not sure what you're getting at with your post. Negotiations cost money, and dues are where those funds come from. It's not rocket science.

Come on windshear! Can't you spot a freeloader?

 

[windshear73]

^^ I know! It's frustrating when people expect to be spoon fed, and then (regardless of the integrity of the information) run with it as if it were gospel. 1108, and IBT National bylaws are widely available. During the drive, the Organizing Committee put out lots of great information. Yet, we still have people here whom, when asked, admit to never having read any of it. The same people typically start related conversations with the phrase "I heard...", followed by false information. Sigh...

 

[Hogprint]

Congrats gang!