Trans Exec at KVNY

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Huh ? In post #71 you say your previous employer typed you in the A/C. Now you say you these guys won't type you for a while. How many type ratings you need for 1 measly gulfstream ?

There are several ratings required if you wish to fly all models of Gulfstream. When you hear the word Gulfstream, a large, stand-up cabin piece of iron comes to mind. The original (read: real) Gulfstream was designed by Grumman and is built big, overpowered and tough. Recently it got messy. Gulfstream bought an Israeli manufacturers line of biz jets, the Astra and the Galaxy. They (for marketing challenges from other manufacturers who had their own 'full' lines) called them G100s and G200. Pilots who say they fly a Gulfstream should really clarify if they are flying one of these 2 models, which is not a Gulfstream design, not built in a Gulfstream facility and does you no good if you want to transition in to a large cabin (read: real) Gulfstream.



Anyone who would turn down a job upgrading from a Galaxy (G200) into a fleet of GIIIs, GIVs, and GVs, is a nut. It would be an amazing investment in anyone’s career. I just hope that guys who think that way would never come knocking on my company’s door. Anyone looking at just $ instead of QOL and putting in dues to get into the top aircraft in the world, is just not together enough to raise my gear.



Ace

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Though he did not actually give me the precise number, I mentioned that I started last October in the G200 at $42,000 per year plus per diem and the interviewer said that the salary would be similar. Seeing as they would not type me for sometime, and seeing as I have tenure in the G200, I declined further consideration.

I understand. It sounds like you made the right choice. Everyone is different.

Ace

 

[HMR]

Pilots who say they fly a Gulfstream should really clarify if they are flying one of these 2 models, which is not a Gulfstream design, not built in a Gulfstream facility and does you no good if you want to transition in to a large cabin (read: real) Gulfstream.

Shhh! Don't tell my girlfriend.

 

[smellthejeta]

There are several ratings required if you wish to fly all models of Gulfstream. When you hear the word Gulfstream, a large, stand-up cabin piece of iron comes to mind. The original (read: real) Gulfstream was designed by Grumman and is built big, overpowered and tough. Recently it got messy. Gulfstream bought an Israeli manufacturers line of biz jets, the Astra and the Galaxy. They (for marketing challenges from other manufacturers who had their own 'full' lines) called them G100s and G200. Pilots who say they fly a Gulfstream should really clarify if they are flying one of these 2 models, which is not a Gulfstream design, not built in a Gulfstream facility and does you no good if you want to transition in to a large cabin (read: real) Gulfstream.



Anyone who would turn down a job upgrading from a Galaxy (G200) into a fleet of GIIIs, GIVs, and GVs, is a nut. It would be an amazing investment in anyone’s career. I just hope that guys who think that way would never come knocking on my company’s door. Anyone looking at just $ instead of QOL and putting in dues to get into the top aircraft in the world, is just not together enough to raise my gear.



Ace

Ace, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Westwind series aircraft now called the Gulfstream 50? It's like a Beechjet pilot telling you he flies the "hawker" 'cause he has a Hawker 400XP, right?

 

[gaucho]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has taken the test that is given at the interview at Trans- Exec. If you can please PM me.
Thanks.

 

[GVFlyer]

The Air Group, AvJet and Trans Exec

If you feel you must immerse yourself in the West Coast aviation experience (which is a little high speed for me), John Winthrop, Mark Foulkrod and David Bilson are all good to work for.

GV

 

[PseudoName]

John Winthrop, Mark Foulkrod and David Bilson are all good to work for.

The aviation community is constantly changing.

For whatever it is worth, pilots can't leave AvJet fast enough. Yeah, they have lots of fancy airplanes and big names that fly in them....but that isn't enough to keep their employees happy. Lots of problems over there.

 

[HMR]

For whatever it is worth, pilots can't leave AvJet fast enough. Yeah, they have lots of fancy airplanes and big names that fly in them....but that isn't enough to keep their employees happy. Lots of problems over there.

That's news to me. All the guys I know at AvJet are happy. I was there for a meeting with the CP and GM last week. Everything looked good. What are the "problems"?

 

[PseudoName]

That's news to me. All the guys I know at AvJet are happy. I was there for a meeting with the CP and GM last week. Everything looked good. What are the "problems"?

Of course everything looked good, you met with management. You think they would give you the inside scoop on how everything is going in the "trenches"?

Hey, there are worse companies to work for than AvJet. A job is a job.....

 

[HMR]

Of course everything looked good, you met with management. You think they would give you the inside scoop on how everything is going in the "trenches"?

Seriously, what are the problems? My friends there are pilots in the "trenches" and I haven't heard anything negative from them. One of them just got done telling me how happy he was at AvJet. Are the problems confined to just some of the fleet?

For the record. I'm not a management guy. I'm just a lowly PT91 pilot.

 

[HMR]

Not knowing English friend's quals are, here is a general recommendation.

AirGroup
AvJet
PrimeJet
Elite
Lacy (Not a fan of them, but at least they aren't shady)

LGB-Presidential Air (Former investor of PacificJet didn't like what was going on at PJ and started his own company)
SNA-Regency Air (New company, sounds like a good operation with 3 new Beechjets)

Pseudo- Two weeks ago you recommended AvJet. Now you're saying pilots can't leave fast enough. What gives?

 

[PseudoName]

Maybe some of the larger problems are confined to the fleet.

I was told that pilots have to fight tooth and nail to get their expense checks. Basically, accounting is told to delay the payment of expenses as long as possible....ie if you are off the total amount by a cent or forget to put a trip number on a receipt, or forget a receipt for a 5.00 breakfast meal, they kick back your expense report.

Several guys have left recently because they were promised an upgrade into larger aircraft, they find another job, turn in a resignation letter, at which time management says that if they stay, they will go into the next upgrade class. Those pilots stayed initially, never got the upgrade, got a clue and finally left.

No matter how hard you work and are respected there, your job is never secure (not much more different than the rest of us). I know two pilots who were told that if their airplane was ever sold, not to worry, they would be placed into another airplane. Their assigned airplane was sold, management called them in and told them about the sale and said, "Thanks for playing....here's your last paycheck." When both pilots asked about the original agreement of being placed into another airplane, management said they did everything possible to save their jobs, but times were tough. Must have not been too bad, they were hiring into other programs and training pilots.

I could keep typing, but I think you get the picture. Maybe you will have better luck than the people I knew that worked there.

 

[PseudoName]

Pseudo- Two weeks ago you recommended AvJet. Now you're saying pilots can't leave fast enough. What gives?

Compared to Pacific Jet, yes, AvJet would be the better choice.

....and within the last two weeks, I have heard more of the same about AvJet, so that's why I shedding light to that at this time.

Of course, being in aviation, it's just all rumors and speculation.

If you are seriously looking at AvJet, I figured you would want to hear it all in order to be prepared.

 

[HMR]

I could keep typing, but I think you get the picture. Maybe you will have better luck than the people I knew that worked there.

Man, that's a bummer for those pilots. Very interesting. I'd never heard that.

I'm not trying to get a job with them. This PT91 thing has grown on me: Better pay, stable company, excellent CP and being home every night (and most days) is hard to beat.

There are some pilots on this board looking for work and I've recommended AvJet (and a few others) via PM, phone and e-mail. I just want to make sure I've got the whole picture.