Trans Exec at KVNY

[English]

These accidents were several years ago, maybe within the last 5-6 years.

 

[PseudoName]

The Gulfstream vs. King Air happened 4 years ago. As Jedi stated, the crew sat on the ramp for 45 minutes with the door closed and APU running with the FAA, Police and other officials waiting at the door. I happened to be on the ramp that day.....both pilots appeared to be very busy during that 45 minutes.....probably doing the w/b, jepps, etc!! The flight attendant was the one who informed the Capt that they hit another airplane since she was sitting in the cabin and saw the whole thing.


On another note, there was a time where the operator in question was in dire need of pilots. Someone in management went up to my boss and said, "Hey, want to fly a Gulfstream trip.......you fly jet aircraft......which would be good enough for the training docs......I will fill out the appropriate paperwork and you will be good to go" Needless to say, my boss declined the offer.

 

[HMR]

Thanks Jedi. Good job. I've read those accident reports before and have had to sit through the play by play during indoc. I didn't remember the Trans-Exec connection.

EDIT: I wonder why the flight attendant had to tell the GIV crew about hitting the King Air? You'd think the pilots would have heard something when the BE90's prop shredded the bottom of their wing.

 

[English]

I don't know, HMR. Compared to alot of charter operators out there, I haven't read enough here that would have me put Trans Exec on a list of shady operators.

Anyone have anything else to add? Positive, negative or neutral...

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Trans-Exec

I don't know, HMR. Compared to alot of charter operators out there, I haven't read enough here that would have me put Trans Exec on a list of shady operators.

Anyone have anything else to add? Positive, negative or neutral...

OK, here is what I know. A friend of mine is a captain for AirGroup and knows people at TransExec. They have been in business for a long time and have had 2 accidents. Neither accident resulted in an action by the FAA and they told him they have never had a violation. Neither accident resulted in any injuries!! He says they run a VERY strict and safe operation. This, in consideration of what has happened in several recent crashes (starting with that one in Aspen which we ALL have studied) is a pretty amazing safety record. As for these other stories, I doubt an operation with 8 Gulfstream and a bunch of GVs, would be in doing this sort of stuff, sounds like flame to me.

A pal of mine also just sent me the NTSB report which I am pasting. This sure doesn't sound like the fault of the airplane that was taking the conservative route and making an IFR aproach. Judge for yourselves, but they sound quite safe. Ps: I still don't like 135! Ace

"The NTSB deremines the probable cause(s) of this accident are as follows: The failure of the pilot of the other lane to corectly set a new transponder code and an anomality in ATC software that precluded the controller from manually overriding the resulting inhibition of displayed data. Factors in the accident were impared function of the collision avoidance system in the airplane due to structural masking of the other airplane's transponder antenna, an intermittent failure of the approach controller's communication radio transmitter which interfered with his ability to communicate traffic information to the pilots, the failure of both of the approach controller and the tower controller to issue safety alerts when the traffic conflict became apparent, and the failure of the flight crew to maintain an adequate visual lookout to see and avoid the other airplane."

 

[PseudoName]

OK, here is what I know. A friend of mine is a captain for AirGroup and knows people at TransExec. They have been in business for a long time and have had 2 accidents. Neither accident resulted in an action by the FAA and they told him they have never had a violation.

Having 2 accidents without any FAA actions??? Sounds too good to be true, unless there is something going on at a different pay grade than at the pilot level.

If you are going to put this operator on the "A" list of SoCal charter operators because they avoided FAA actions, I got another one for your list. How about Shady Jet (NW corner of the VNY airport), they stole, (flew it without the owner's permission) a G-III not so long ago on a charter to Europe. The airplane was not RVSM certified, engines were past TBO and the crew was not 135 qualified. The aircraft owner reported this to the FAA and FBI......nothing was ever done to the operator.

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Having 2 accidents without any FAA actions??? Sounds too good to be true, unless there is something going on at a different pay grade than at the pilot level.

If you are going to put this operator on the "A" list of SoCal charter operators because they avoided FAA actions, I got another one for your list. How about Shady Jet (NW corner of the VNY airport), they stole, (flew it without the owner's permission) a G-III not so long ago on a charter to Europe. The airplane was not RVSM certified, engines were past TBO and the crew was not 135 qualified. The aircraft owner reported this to the FAA and FBI......nothing was ever done to the operator.

Read a little closer, PseudoPilot, I am not saying they are good, bad or otherwise. I am just telling the original poster of what some very good pilots I have known for a long time say the rep of this company is. I don't think anyone 'avoiding' FAA violations is a badge of honor, I mearly am stating the facts about the accidents. I have know idea what your beef is, I really could care less, but what has happened in these reports is certainly not like 18 people dieing in Aspen, fatalities in Montrose and in London, and injuries in TEB. If this company is bad to work for, you'll certainly have to use something other than some non-injury accidents that happened years ago to convince me or anyone else on this board. I've still HEARD that they are about the best out in LA, LA land.

Ace

 

[HMR]

I got another one for your list. How about Shady Jet (NW corner of the VNY airport), they stole, (flew it without the owner's permission) a G-III not so long ago on a charter to Europe......nothing was ever done to the operator.

My friend used to F/A on that GIII. I've seen her break down in tears when talking about how dangerous the ops were. I thought the Feds were supposed to fine them out of business a few years ago for their hundreds of noise violations, including all the bogus early AM "Life Flights". They set the standard for shady yet I hear them on the radio around the country more than any other VNY operator (including Lacy). Someone's making money.

Psuedo-You seem to have the scoop on every VNY operator. English's friend is looking for a job. Who would you recommend?

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

My friend used to F/A on that GIII. I've seen her break down in tears when talking about how dangerous the ops were. I thought the Feds were supposed to fine them out of business a few years ago for their hundreds of noise violations, including all the bogus early AM "Life Flights". They set the standard for shady yet I hear them on the radio around the country more than any other VNY operator (including Lacy). Someone's making money.

Psuedo-You seem to have the scoop on every VNY operator. English's friend is looking for a job. Who would you recommend?

Just to keep up with all you charter dogs, is that Pacific Jet you're talking about by chance? My friend out there says that they ARE the worst. I also heard they had several of their jets reposessed recently. Wow!

Ace

 

[Superpilot92]

Just to keep up with all you charter dogs, is that Pacific Jet you're talking about by chance? My friend out there says that they ARE the worst. I also heard they had several of their jets reposessed recently. Wow!

Ace

I have two buddies leaving to go fly for Pac Jet next week. I dont know much about the company but I hope thats not how it is. I would hate to see two good guys get burned going there.