Trans Exec at KVNY

[PseudoName]

OK, here is what I know. A friend of mine is a captain for AirGroup and knows people at TransExec. They have been in business for a long time and have had 2 accidents. Neither accident resulted in an action by the FAA and they told him they have never had a violation.

Having 2 accidents without any FAA actions??? Sounds too good to be true, unless there is something going on at a different pay grade than at the pilot level.

If you are going to put this operator on the "A" list of SoCal charter operators because they avoided FAA actions, I got another one for your list. How about Shady Jet (NW corner of the VNY airport), they stole, (flew it without the owner's permission) a G-III not so long ago on a charter to Europe. The airplane was not RVSM certified, engines were past TBO and the crew was not 135 qualified. The aircraft owner reported this to the FAA and FBI......nothing was ever done to the operator.

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Having 2 accidents without any FAA actions??? Sounds too good to be true, unless there is something going on at a different pay grade than at the pilot level.

If you are going to put this operator on the "A" list of SoCal charter operators because they avoided FAA actions, I got another one for your list. How about Shady Jet (NW corner of the VNY airport), they stole, (flew it without the owner's permission) a G-III not so long ago on a charter to Europe. The airplane was not RVSM certified, engines were past TBO and the crew was not 135 qualified. The aircraft owner reported this to the FAA and FBI......nothing was ever done to the operator.

Read a little closer, PseudoPilot, I am not saying they are good, bad or otherwise. I am just telling the original poster of what some very good pilots I have known for a long time say the rep of this company is. I don't think anyone 'avoiding' FAA violations is a badge of honor, I mearly am stating the facts about the accidents. I have know idea what your beef is, I really could care less, but what has happened in these reports is certainly not like 18 people dieing in Aspen, fatalities in Montrose and in London, and injuries in TEB. If this company is bad to work for, you'll certainly have to use something other than some non-injury accidents that happened years ago to convince me or anyone else on this board. I've still HEARD that they are about the best out in LA, LA land.

Ace

 

[HMR]

I got another one for your list. How about Shady Jet (NW corner of the VNY airport), they stole, (flew it without the owner's permission) a G-III not so long ago on a charter to Europe......nothing was ever done to the operator.

My friend used to F/A on that GIII. I've seen her break down in tears when talking about how dangerous the ops were. I thought the Feds were supposed to fine them out of business a few years ago for their hundreds of noise violations, including all the bogus early AM "Life Flights". They set the standard for shady yet I hear them on the radio around the country more than any other VNY operator (including Lacy). Someone's making money.

Psuedo-You seem to have the scoop on every VNY operator. English's friend is looking for a job. Who would you recommend?

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

My friend used to F/A on that GIII. I've seen her break down in tears when talking about how dangerous the ops were. I thought the Feds were supposed to fine them out of business a few years ago for their hundreds of noise violations, including all the bogus early AM "Life Flights". They set the standard for shady yet I hear them on the radio around the country more than any other VNY operator (including Lacy). Someone's making money.

Psuedo-You seem to have the scoop on every VNY operator. English's friend is looking for a job. Who would you recommend?

Just to keep up with all you charter dogs, is that Pacific Jet you're talking about by chance? My friend out there says that they ARE the worst. I also heard they had several of their jets reposessed recently. Wow!

Ace

 

[Superpilot92]

Just to keep up with all you charter dogs, is that Pacific Jet you're talking about by chance? My friend out there says that they ARE the worst. I also heard they had several of their jets reposessed recently. Wow!

Ace

I have two buddies leaving to go fly for Pac Jet next week. I dont know much about the company but I hope thats not how it is. I would hate to see two good guys get burned going there.

 

[English]

Just to keep up with all you charter dogs, is that Pacific Jet you're talking about by chance? My friend out there says that they ARE the worst. I also heard they had several of their jets reposessed recently. Wow!

Ace

BINGO

 

[Superpilot92]

How is Pacjet doing now? Are they still having problems?

 

[English]

Let me guess...your buddy/buddies are low time (600 to 800 hours TT) and maybe did a pay for training scheme for the right seat of a Gulfstream?


Pacific Jet has been written about on this board ad nauseum. I'd suggest you do a search for Pacific Jet, be a good friend, and pass the info on to your buddies. While most of it is a few months old, I haven't heard anything to suggest their reputation or operation has improved. Has anyone else? I've been out of the loop the last year or so.

 

[Superpilot92]

I read the stuff in the old gouges about them. I told them both what i read and even showed them but sometimes you dont know what to believe and not to believe on here. You are correct about the PFT scheme. It is not cheap either. I did tell them that they shouldnt have to pay. I dont believe in PFT anymore than you have to, to recieve your ratings. Its expensive enough. They are both good guys and i hope things are better for them when they get there. The stuff i read from the past gouges doesnt paint a pretty picture!

 

[PseudoName]

Psuedo-You seem to have the scoop on every VNY operator. English's friend is looking for a job. Who would you recommend?

Not knowing English friend's quals are, here is a general recommendation.

AirGroup
AvJet
PrimeJet
Elite
Lacy (Not a fan of them, but at least they aren't shady)

LGB-Presidential Air (Former investor of PacificJet didn't like what was going on at PJ and started his own company)
SNA-Regency Air (New company, sounds like a good operation with 3 new Beechjets)

 

[HMR]

They are both good guys and i hope things are better for them when they get there.

Is this your buddy you mentioned on another thread that has 600TT/50Multi? He's made a big mistake. Flying the GII/GIII will get old within a week. He'll get ALOT of experience flying really old, poorly maintained aircraft. After a year he'll probably have an additional 1,000hrs of SIC. Unfortunately, it will be 1,000hrs of gaining bad habits and questionable safety practices. This will negatively affect his flying for years to come. There's NO reason to make this career move.

ACE-I flew charter out of KVNY for two years. I'm not really up on what goes on there anymore. I used to run into pilots from Pac Jet when I lived in Van Nuys and the stories they told me were worse than anything I've read here. The Feds know about this stuff but choose to look the other way.

 

[Superpilot92]

Yup thats they guy i was talking about. Like i said b4 these guys are friends and i hate to hear about the bad stuff about where they are going. I tried to get them to come to Xjet where i will be at but the thought of flying a Gulfstream be it an old one I guess was more appealing. You know the story, supposedly quick upgrade, fly movie stars yada yada yada. The schedule they said they would have is 22 days on 7 days off!! To each his own. They are both single and young and hopefully all works out for them. They are excited about it thats for sure. I wish them the best.

 

[PseudoName]

Yeah, 22 days on, 7 days off. They don't tell you that most of the pilots are TDY at one of two condos PacJet owns out in TEB. Your days off most always are given when you are in TEB.

Sure, they will hear the quick upgrade bit. However, they will have run away from that operator before getting the hours for upgrade.

 

[HMR]

I forgot about the condos in TEB!

 

[Superpilot92]

yeah they told me about them. but i dont think they realize that that may be where they are on their days off!!