Tranny Talkin'?

[Guppy Guy]

Brief summary:
Last two sections were put on the table. Pay and Scheduling. Management threw a predictable tantrum (read as standard posturing). Mediator decided nothing else could be accomplished that day so the rest of the session was convened for the afternoon (it was the last day of talks). Company requested next weeks talks be canceled (read as more posturing). No response yet from mediator on that.

No one walked away from the table. Talks are still on for March. Nothing has been canceled.

This is all predictable and SOP for contract talks/maneuvering. Stay tuned.

 

[maxblast72]

That is a perfect summary.

As stated, it is really important to stay informed and save your money.

 

[TV9Driver]

its hard to save money when your salary doesn't even cover your bills....

 

[BR715]

I still think a strike vote is in order. I know what you all are going to say, but I think we will get enough guys to vote yes to make this thing work.

 

[dh82dvr]

I think managements issue is transparency in scheduling. They would like to keep everyone in the dark.

 

[JerryLundegaard]

I think managements issue is transparency in scheduling. They would like to keep everyone in the dark.

So when trips are awarded to another pilot can you see if proper seniority was used, or how someone was paid?

Can you see how much coverage there is on a given day, or what another pilot's protected rest period is? Or are the issues different ones?

 

[RedDogC130]

I was told that is what it said by another crew member while i was on the line. I cannot get me e-mail write now please let us all know what it said.

If you did not read it then STFU.....nobody want to hear what you heard from a FA probably....read first....type second...not a difficult concept.

 

[maxblast72]

its hard to save money when your salary doesn't even cover your bills....

Even if this is a true statement for your particular situation, you probably need to start posting you are prepared financially to take a strike for a week, month, or whatever it takes to get a contract that rewards our hard work. Or just email Klaus and tell him your financial status guaratees you won't go on strike when ALPA asks you too.

 

[maxblast72]

I still think a strike vote is in order. I know what you all are going to say, but I think we will get enough guys to vote yes to make this thing work.

You can be assured the MEC and SPC are working with ALPA working on a timeline that maximizes our leverage over the next several months.

 

[maxblast72]

I think managements issue is transparency in scheduling. They would like to keep everyone in the dark.

The words the MEC is using is predictable and transparent scheduling. That is definitely a fair and achievable goal.

 

[TV9Driver]

maxblast,

believe me I AM READY TO STRIKE... I wish we would have taken a strike vote months ago, although I understand we need to let the process work. 5 years of substandard f/o wages have basically brought me to bankruptcy's doorstep, so going on strike won't change that - it just might speed up the process a little.

We need to get this over with and move on - either with a new contract, or a new career. I understand it would be harder for captains to replace a 150-175k job, but for us f/o's it's alot easier to replace a 60-80k job, and the way this place is going, the current pay and working conditions are not worth it.

 

[JerryLundegaard]

Any word on how the company responded to the proposed pay rates this week?

 

[maxblast72]

So far doesn't sound like a ton a progress was made this week. Possible MEC stike vote authorization coming soon?

 

[JerryLundegaard]

Are they still talking, or done for the week?

 

[Captjiggles]

5 years of substandard f/o wages have basically brought me to bankruptcy's doorstep, so going on strike won't change that - it just might speed up the process a little.

Holy crap man! Don't take it the wrong way but...........5 year FO pay could be a lot better, but damn, curret pay shouldn't mean bankruptcy. Why even work for AT if its not financially viable?

 

[osoaus]

5 years of substandard f/o wages have basically brought me to bankruptcy's doorstep, so going on strike won't change that - it just might speed up the process a little.

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No kidding-someone have a gambling problem???

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

yea we gamble on the 31 month upgrade and lost.. and a strike vote starts April 19..

 

[27 driver]

All the high and mighty out there should try to support a family on less than 50K a year then get back to us and tell us how much money you saved. Ya we took a chance on Airtran but it hasn't worked out. Now we will get what we deserve or shut it down.

 

[JerryLundegaard]

.. and a strike vote starts April 19..

Is that for real? How long does it take?

 

[Penguin46]

No, but for those who do have a gambling problem

No kidding-someone have a gambling problem???

Short term - From a day trader blog- Predicts a near unanimous strike vote (authorization)... that sends stock to low 4's maybe upper 3's (Buy), Management and pilot union counters eventually resolve, stock back in the 5's (Sell).

Long term - Money lost by company on employees is negated by increased production....

Bottom line buy in the 3's-4's....sell in the 5's.

Any other inputs from the gamblers anonymous group?