Training washout rate

[han_solo]

Which regional airline seems to have the most washout rate? and why?

 

[pkjohnsonm]

I have heard that Trans States is pretty bad. I been told they intentionally try to washout 20%-30% of the class, but that doesn't seem to make much sense to even waste the money to begin with. Then again, what does make sense in this business?

 

[T-Gates]

I have heard that Trans States is pretty bad. I been told they intentionally try to washout 20%-30% of the class, but that doesn't seem to make much sense to even waste the money to begin with. Then again, what does make sense in this business?

Intentionally washing out people? I find that hard to believe. They probaly just make habit of cutting poeople loose before they ever cause problems out on the line.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

A high washout rate points to one of 2 things.
Poor screening of applicants
Shortcomings in the training program itself.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Hey,
I was with Trans States till they closed Calif. The trainining is akin to drinking from a firehose underwater. The sim training is oriented towards pilots who have lots of intensive multi experience with an instrument emphasis in the extreme. The 20% of the people washed out of our class were weak instrument pilots, with little multi experience, almost exclusively from areas without real clouds. In all it was the most intensive training experience I have ever experienced. Also the best group of pilots I have ever had the pleasure to work with! Once a Waterskiier you will always be a 'skiier, it's sort of like the Marine Corps. Rock on guys!
PBR

 

[WhiteCloud]

TransStates comes up a lot in these discussions. They keep the best and shoot the rest and sometimes shoot some of the best too. They don't care. It's easy to have a "tough" training program. Just pass out some thick technical manuals and ask pilots to memorize them in 2 weeks. It's easy to have a "tough" sim course too. Just don't pass out a syllabus or let pilot know what's expected of them for each session. My flying and preparation was good and I barely made it through. WhiteCould (ex-Waterskiier)

 

[Tooslow]

Aca Was Pretty Bad Before The Furlough, They Knew They Were Going To Furough, Coex Was Great, No Problem. But There Was Newhires Still Having Trouble With No Turbine Experience.

 

[Black Water Dog]

Hey,
I was with Trans States till they closed Calif. The trainining is akin to drinking from a firehose underwater. The sim training is oriented towards pilots who have lots of intensive multi experience with an instrument emphasis in the extreme. The 20% of the people washed out of our class were weak instrument pilots, with little multi experience, almost exclusively from areas without real clouds. In all it was the most intensive training experience I have ever experienced. Also the best group of pilots I have ever had the pleasure to work with! Once a Waterskiier you will always be a 'skiier, it's sort of like the Marine Corps. Rock on guys!
PBR

I hired on with Trans States in the spring and say that is pretty close to the mark. If you have work ethic and instrument skills, you can get through. Not a lot of hand holding though.

That's not to say that some training is probably better than others. But if you are concerned to the point that you are shopping regionals based on fear of failure, the real answer is to solidify your instrument skills before you carry the public in 121 operations.

 

[paid4training]

I saw an advertisement for atp's crj training....is it worth it to go through something like this?

 

[PositiveRate]

For posting that avatar....

Go directly to JAIL.
Do not pass GO

 

[phishn@daves]

For posting that avatar....

Go directly to JAIL.
Do not pass GO

HAAAAA!!!

Thanks for that........BTW, is it strange to be somewhat aroused by it?

 

[phishn@daves]

She's just pregnant right?

Is she big-boned, because that is a large gut bone.

 

[j41]

Hi Lee, That's funny !!!!

 

[phishn@daves]

Hi Lee, That's funny !!!!

Capt. Haze?

You blew my cover.........next thing you know everyone has directions to the bat cave.

Wazzup!!

 

[paid4training]

I saw this picture and had to put it on here...yes she is BIG boned...


but anyway...what about that ATP course in the CRJ? Is it a good Idea to save up for?

 

[Black Water Dog]

I saw an advertisement for atp's crj training....is it worth it to go through something like this?

I guess if you got the $$$ and the time. Will be of less help if you get hired on and get assigned an ERJ. Or a Saab 340 (etc). And they probably don't teach basic instrument skills, if that was a concern.

The hardest part for me was the automation (flight director, autopilot), different avionics, and the two pilot cockpit. Nothing insurmountable, but previous exposure would have helped. The EFIS tubes are a bit different, but you get used to that fast (and you will NEVER want to go back to round guages again).

 

[j41]

Lee, everyone already has direction to your BAT CAVE.......

 

[BlackPilot628]

I interviewed at Express Jet a few months ago. Our interviewers told us that They have the highest wash out rate in the Regional airline industry. Because they are hiring 80 to 100 people per month. Out of that, they loose about 35% and sometimes close to half.

 

[han_solo]

What happends when you get washed out?

Can they get jobs with other airlines or is it the end of their career?

 

[WhiteCloud]

What happends when you get washed out?

Can they get jobs with other airlines or is it the end of their career?

Sure, you can get another job. It happens all the time. A lot depends on why you washed out. A bad attitude is hard to correct but, if it's just due to inexperience then it is very understandable since most training programs are really not designed to teach but rather to check you out.